[MR.]

Originally Posted by as7920

Hi. Do you have the MP CF DCT gear selector? If so do you have a part number for it?

I understand you can get an MP CF Interior kit but it comprises 3 pieces of which I already have 2 from my M135i (gear surround and handbrake handle).

Dont want to have to buy the whole kit for the sake of the DCT part. I haven't been able to find a p/n anywhere.

It is not available separately. Only as a kit. Perhaps IND can ship it to you as a separate part, but the stealer only offers it as a complete kit.

MR

[Motorsport_M]

Originally Posted by Tag

Thought the same when I saw the 0-60 time, I call bs on this.

This time is crasy, same as for the TT-RS AWD no ?

[1bmwaddict]

Originally Posted by WAY

That can’t be real. It says M2 Competion Package to start with.

I can't tell you, and I can't show you the text because of the location. The text I got showed a a big tv... like they were doing a presentation. You might be true. Take a everything you see with a grain of salt

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Dates aside, did anyone look at the 0-60 MPH times ? 3.6 seconds is GTS type times.

This will be a very impressive car if that is really true. On the M2 chassis and with a manual transmission, even adding 0.2 seconds to that time is very very quick.

Either that or BMW might have mistaken it with some other car.

Yeah, they traditionally sandbang their 0-60 times anyway, so is the car really going to do 0-60 in 3.3? I call as well on that one...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

I can't tell you, and I can't show you the text because of the location. The text I got showed a a big tv... like they were doing a presentation. You might be true. Take a everything you see with a grain of salt

And with the "7/18" comment, is that when we will see this for the first time, or when they will start showing up in the wild?

[filet.M2c]

Originally Posted by Gatte

Dates aside, did anyone look at the 0-60 MPH times ? 3.6 seconds is GTS type times.

This will be a very impressive car if that is really true. On the M2 chassis and with a manual transmission, even adding 0.2 seconds to that time is very very quick.

Either that or BMW might have mistaken it with some other car.

Yeah, I'm skeptical on the 3.6 sec time. M4 comp pack runs what, 4.0 secs? Don't see how they could shave off 0.4 sec with supposedly less power unless perhaps they're running on SC2 tires? I'll take this image with a grain of salt, looks like something I could have thrown together in word and screen shotted.

[m34m]

As enticing as this new model is I wonder if anyone fully grasps the unique gloriousness of the N55 with MPE in sport and track modes? Nothing sounds like it on the road. Mind blowing sound. I have friends with 911s and exotics that are in awe. I don't know that I could ever give up this legendary combination which in retrospect will be one of those rare moments in time where M engineers created magic. It's just magic. For me no new colors, seat stitching and more powerful motor (when I have the perfect blend and balance now) will draw me away from this legendary package. No way.

[Egress]

Originally Posted by m34m

As enticing as this new model is I wonder if anyone fully grasps the unique gloriousness of the N55 with MPE in sport and track modes? Nothing sounds like it on the road. Mind blowing sound. I have friends with 911s and exotics that are in awe. I don't know that I could ever give up this legendary combination which in retrospect will be one of those rare moments in time where M engineers created magic. It's just magic. For me no new colors, seat stitching and more powerful motor (when I have the perfect blend and balance now) will draw me away from this legendary package. No way.

This +1

Amen

[alscks0414]

Beside the gearbox and detuned N55, and interior options, I am very curious to see few things;

1. Are they going to put 763M? And what tires and what sizes?
2. Would they fit differently shaped spoiler on Competition?
3. Any changes made on suspension?? Are they just going to be on MP Coilover or redesigned struts and joints and swaybars and anti-roll bars?
4. Any interior strip-down? Possibly those febric door handles with more opened CF door panel? More alcantar interior on the dash?
5. knowing that they are offering an option to upgrade the seats to be more track oriented bucket seats, what about seat belt? 5 point harness?? Just M-striped seatbelt???

Cant wait to see the announcement!

[alscks0414]

Originally Posted by MR.

Ok let's make this list of M Performance parts that can be retrofitted onto the M2 Competition

M Performance carbon mirror caps: Not possible (New mirrors on M2C)
M Performance black side gills: Possible to retrofit, also the painted ones from IND (Correct?)
M Performance black front grille: Not possible (New front on M2C)
M Performance side fins front: Possible to retrofit (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance side fins mid/rear: Possible to retrofit (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance steering wheels: Possible to retrofit
M Performance alu paddels: Possible to retrofit (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance carbon rear spoiler: Possible to retrofit (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance carbon rear diffuser: Not possible (New rear on M2C, correct?)
M Performance carbon gear selector: Possible (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance carbon hand brake: Possible (Removing from M2 is hard)
M Performance suspension: Unknown (Removing from M2 is hard)

Other parts:

ASD module removal harness: Possible to retrofit
Any aftermarket M2 exhaust on the market right now: Not possible
Any aftermarket M2 downpipe on the market right now: Not possible
Red starter button: Possible
Awron or P3Cars display: Possible (Might need a new air vent if you are coming from a pre-facelift M2)
Module with button to switch on/off PDC: Unknown, due to new front PDC option it might or might not be included

Feel free to add more to this list and change my comments if you think I am wrong... Gatte go for it

MR

One thing that I want to see with M2C is the side gills that "actually" functioning rather than just cosmetic feature.

I believe the Grills are in different sides from the picture being revealed. So dont think they will fit with M2C.

Interior pieces can be retrofit I think, and they are easy to remove except the manual gear CF shifts... Once they are installed VERY HARD TO REMOVE unlike the stock knob. I am not a small skinny guy but i could not do it. Brought it to the dealer and 2 techs tried together pulling that thing, did not work. They tried with 3 workers while I put the car in for break-in service and they could not have it done, saying that they are afraid that they will damage something making "actual try". I laughed and gave up halfway. Tried myself removing it as last call, it did WORK! maybe those effort that dealer guys put did losen up the shifter little but i did remove it. LOL

I think spoiler will be different shape? (I hope it is) Diffusors are going to be different as they are redesigning front and back bumpers so front splitters and rear diffusor wont work. Side winglets can be retrofitted but as you said no one wants it as they are not fuctional. (Front splitters are the same).

[Tag]

ynguldyn,
We've seen the name on the VINs change from CS to Competition to Cs and back to Competition over the past few months. Do you have any insight as to why that is or what the official name of the M2 that will be debut in April will be?

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by m34m

As enticing as this new model is I wonder if anyone fully grasps the unique gloriousness of the N55 with MPE in sport and track modes? Nothing sounds like it on the road. Mind blowing sound. I have friends with 911s and exotics that are in awe. I don't know that I could ever give up this legendary combination which in retrospect will be one of those rare moments in time where M engineers created magic. It's just magic. For me no new colors, seat stitching and more powerful motor (when I have the perfect blend and balance now) will draw me away from this legendary package. No way.

The n55 with mpe sounds good but no one in a 911 or exotic is jealous of the sound of an m2.

I can just imagine a Lambo huracan owner wishing his car sounded like an m2....no.

Car sounds great but come on man

[mtoosexy]

Originally Posted by Black Gold

The n55 with mpe sounds good but no one in a 911 or exotic is jealous of the sound of an m2.

I can just imagine a Lambo huracan owner wishing his car sounded like an m2....no.

Car sounds great but come on man

For the record, the Huracan doesn't sound all that great either! I would know I hear it 4-5 days a week all summer long. Its fun to blip the throttle... but I know its not pure aural bliss by any stretch of the imagination.
M2 does sound good, not perfect... quite unique actually. I dig the n55 sound and will be very upset if my '19 M2 sounds like the current M3

[m34m]

Originally Posted by Black Gold

The n55 with mpe sounds good but no one in a 911 or exotic is jealous of the sound of an m2.

I can just imagine a Lambo huracan owner wishing his car sounded like an m2....no.

Car sounds great but come on man

Maybe you're confusing pure sound with which is a better and more desirable car. The 911 and Huracan are obviously, I'm not delusional. That said my buddy's 991.1 can't be heard next to my M2. As for a Huracan a car that costs 5 times more does sound better, and it should. Do you have an MPE or have you experienced one? I find a lot of guys on here have the stock exhaust, which is great don't get me wrong, and think an MPE is a minor upgrade. Think again. It's impossible to describe what it sounds like you have to hear it to believe it. I suspect with so few M2's in the wild and even fewer with MPE that a lot of people have never heard it.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by m34m

Maybe you're confusing pure sound with which is a better and more desirable car. The 911 and Huracan are obviously, I'm not delusional. That said my buddy's 991.1 can't be heard next to my M2. As for a Huracan a car that costs 5 times more does sound better, and it should. Do you have an MPE or have you experienced one? I find a lot of guys on here have the stock exhaust, which is great don't get me wrong, and think an MPE is a minor upgrade. Think again. It's impossible to describe what it sounds like you have to hear it to believe it. I suspect with so few M2's in the wild and even fewer with MPE that a lot of people have never heard it.

I have heard it in person

And you didn’t say the exotic didn’t sound as good for the money. You said exotic owners are jealous of the sound.

A 911 with sport exhaust or a gt3 sounds much better to my and most people’s ears.

And all exotics with the exception of mclaren, IMO, sound better as they should.

Regardless, enjoy your car

[m34m]

Originally Posted by Black Gold

I have heard it in person

And you didn’t say the exotic didn’t sound as good for the money. You said exotic owners are jealous of the sound.

A 911 with sport exhaust or a gt3 sounds much better to my and most people’s ears.

And all exotics with the exception of mclaren, IMO, sound better as they should.

Regardless, enjoy your car

$65g and in my opinion sounds better than 911 particularly the 991.2 , yes better than McLaren also. Also as good as some Jags and Aston's. Whatever man it's an opinion one shared by many. Point being this car punches well above it's weight class, more than it should at its price. Enough said. You should get one.

[dandandan]

I wonder if a tuned B58 or S58 is in the cards as a non CS option. I'm not a fan of the new front end look. The peanut (in shell) looking kidney grills or grill is horrible.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by CP911

Has it been confirmed from reliable sources that the grille is really going to look like that? Dear God, I hope not. Adding unique design elements to new models is one thing, but literally abandoning the kidney grilles as we've all come to know and love them is branding suicide. I mean look at the poor X2. It wears a Dodge Durango grille (sans horizontal crosshair) instead of a BMW grille and that is the single biggest reason by far that it looks like shit. Then again, it's not a true BMW, but rather a Mini on the UKL platform wearing a BMW badge, so I suppose they can put whatever abomination of a grille on it they want and still sleep at night. However, this new M2 deserves a proper BMW front end and not one from a Kia Optima.

Everything you have just said was wrong...

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Everything you have just said was wrong...

I agree Scott. He wrong for that ! And he also just plain wrong !

[Wilsm2]

Originally Posted by m34m

Maybe you're confusing pure sound with which is a better and more desirable car. The 911 and Huracan are obviously, I'm not delusional. That said my buddy's 991.1 can't be heard next to my M2. As for a Huracan a car that costs 5 times more does sound better, and it should. Do you have an MPE or have you experienced one? I find a lot of guys on here have the stock exhaust, which is great don't get me wrong, and think an MPE is a minor upgrade. Think again. It's impossible to describe what it sounds like you have to hear it to believe it. I suspect with so few M2's in the wild and even fewer with MPE that a lot of people have never heard it.

I have the MPE and I can firm it is worth every penny, you get the pops and bangs with a grunt.

[CP911]

Originally Posted by dandandan

I wonder if a tuned B58 or S58 is in the cards as a non CS option. I'm not a fan of the new front end look. The peanut (in shell) looking kidney grills or grill is horrible.

Agree. Apparently, others feel we are wrong for not liking everything new that BMW does.

The newly dubbed "peanut" grille looks bad on new M5 too when all black and surrounds become indistinguishable from the slats.

Giving up good looking kidneys on a BMW for a camera was a foolish choice IMHO.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by dandandan

I wonder if a tuned B58 or S58 is in the cards as a non CS option. I'm not a fan of the new front end look. The peanut (in shell) looking kidney grills or grill is horrible.

Originally Posted by CP911

Agree. Apparently, others feel we are wrong for not liking everything new that BMW does.

The newly dubbed "peanut" grille looks bad on new M5 too when all black and surrounds become indistinguishable from the slats.

Giving up good looking kidneys on a BMW for a camera was a foolish choice IMHO.

There's no way they're going to use the B58. The first you'll see that used in an M is the next gen M3 and M4 will get an s58. For instance, the s55 was developed for the M3/4 and some of it's parts were used in the M2's n55. So logically it won't be in the M2 Competition for all the reasons stated.

The girlle is subjective and we haven't seen it yet. The M5 does not have the same grille, it's not joined, but rather has a sensor in between the grilles with a black bezel which makes it appear to be joined. Can we at least wait until the car is revealed before sh!tting all over it?