[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by Daleb

Read again, also includes the passenger seat.

Still that number is ~50lbs too high

[Dec540]

Originally Posted by Daleb

Interesting difference considering you both use the same tuner, you'd gain maybe a few tenths with a single figure temp.

I'm surprised at your time given your mods, my car on bm3 stage 2 98 OTS run 8.7 and another car here in the UK went faster at 8.6s. Thats on 99 Ron fuel and oem fuel pump.

You would expect the extra timing and load you can run with the HPFP and e85 would net more than a few tenths. Do you have any 100-200 times pre HPFP and e85?

No times pre the mods sorry. I did however record a 100-200 with a beta BM3 Stage 2+ E40 mix and got 9.10.

My mods, for clarification are:
- Wagner Stage 2 Evo FMIC
- IPE High Flow (not catless downpipe)
- IPE titanium exhaust
- Turbosmart VR11 Plumb Back diverter valve
- Upgraded aluminum charge pipe
- Dorch Stage 2 HPFP

I'm also running Pilot Sport Cup 2's with 10mm wider rubber front and back - no idea if that makes much of a difference.

There's a chance that the high flow IPE cat is causing restriction and that's what's leading to the lower times, but I can't really be bothered getting a catless DP to check.

[Daleb]

Originally Posted by Dec540

No times pre the mods sorry. I did however record a 100-200 with a beta BM3 Stage 2+ E40 mix and got 9.10.

My mods, for clarification are:
- Wagner Stage 2 Evo FMIC
- IPE High Flow (not catless downpipe)
- IPE titanium exhaust
- Turbosmart VR11 Plumb Back diverter valve
- Upgraded aluminum charge pipe
- Dorch Stage 2 HPFP

I'm also running Pilot Sport Cup 2's with 10mm wider rubber front and back - no idea if that makes much of a difference.

There's a chance that the high flow IPE cat is causing restriction and that's what's leading to the lower times, but I can't really be bothered getting a catless DP to check.

Interesting regarding the stage 2+ time, the delta between your custom map and this is good but still generally slow to what you’d expect for the mods.

I suppose it’s still possible to time but can understand it being a hassle going back to 98 Ron and flashing the 98 ots to test and then revert back to your current setup.

Your mods all look spot on, hi flow cat will probably be a slight restriction given you’re pushing the oem turbo to its upper limit. I also run a 255/275 tyre setup too.

It can be difficult to compare times from different continents due to conditions however your temp, elevation etc seems pretty good. If anything I think the deltas between maps should be comparable and I reckon if you did time the 98 ots it would probably run a high 9 100-200.

[Dec540]

Originally Posted by Daleb

Interesting regarding the stage 2+ time, the delta between your custom map and this is good but still generally slow to what you’d expect for the mods.

I suppose it’s still possible to time but can understand it being a hassle going back to 98 Ron and flashing the 98 ots to test and then revert back to your current setup.

Your mods all look spot on, hi flow cat will probably be a slight restriction given you’re pushing the oem turbo to its upper limit. I also run a 255/275 tyre setup too.

It can be difficult to compare times from different continents due to conditions however your temp, elevation etc seems pretty good. If anything I think the deltas between maps should be comparable and I reckon if you did time the 98 ots it would probably run a high 9 100-200.

Yeah agreed regarding it being hard to compare in different conditions - though it is still a good indication, especially between different maps.

I can swap back to a pump OTS, though over here we typically run the 95 version just due to fuel quality. It's funny, we have pretty average 98 but our E85 always contains at least 85% ethanol.

I'm currently going through the revision process with Halim from BM3 and will see if he can do an E85 flash for me. So I'll wait until that's all finalised before swapping back to pump and measuring that.

[Daleb]

Originally Posted by Dec540

Yeah agreed regarding it being hard to compare in different conditions - though it is still a good indication, especially between different maps.

I can swap back to a pump OTS, though over here we typically run the 95 version just due to fuel quality. It's funny, we have pretty average 98 but our E85 always contains at least 85% ethanol.

I'm currently going through the revision process with Halim from BM3 and will see if he can do an E85 flash for me. So I'll wait until that's all finalised before swapping back to pump and measuring that.

That would be really good to see, I think those pump ots runs would let us know exactly what’s going on.

Halims work is great, I worked with him on v5.7 ots Pump updates. Would be cool to see the numbers from his work too.

Good luck 👍🏼

[OutoftheBlueM2]

Installed the Dorch Engineering Stage 2 pump She's running like a beast. I'm using BM3 and just flashed to the same Stg2 map that I have but with the Dorch pump selected in the map config. It feels so much more comfortable in the high rpms.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by OutoftheBlueM2

Installed the Dorch Engineering Stage 2 pump She's running like a beast. I'm using BM3 and just flashed to the same Stg2 map that I have but with the Dorch pump selected in the map config. It feels so much more comfortable in the high rpms.

Good to hear. This mod is on my radar for this winter. May also do pure stage 2. We'll see

What made you go with the dorch stage 2 over the stage 1?

[OutoftheBlueM2]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

Good to hear. This mod is on my radar for this winter. May also do pure stage 2. We'll see

What made you go with the dorch stage 2 over the stage 1?

I plan on upgrading the turbo so it will probably need the fuelling. Just future proofing. It also allows for full E85 which I'm not sure if I'll do but in any case I'll be ready.

[Leonidm2]

Does anyone already have 100-200 km/h time on 98 ron stage 2 with Dorch stage1 or 2 and custom map?

[Long_Wang]

Anyone using BM3 and running spool?

[ZM2]

Halim is looking for a volunteer to try the new OTS Stg 2+ E30-40 map before finalizing the OTS version. Requirements:

-Stock turbo
-FBO
-Aftermarket HPFP installed
-Can immediately send Stg 2 E30 logs for review
-Can do logs on his new map this coming week
-Can get on a Dynojet (only, no other dyno types) in the next 1-2-weeks
-Will dyno Stock, Stg 2 E30, and Stg 2+ E30-40 tunes during the same dyno session

PM me if you meet the above.

[Daleb]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Halim is looking for a volunteer to try the new OTS Stg 2+ E30-40 map before finalizing the OTS version. Requirements:

-Stock turbo
-FBO
-Aftermarket HPFP installed
-Can immediately send Stg 2 E30 logs for review
-Can do logs on his new map this coming week
-Can get on a Dynojet (only, no other dyno types) in the next 1-2-weeks
-Will dyno Stock, Stg 2 E30, and Stg 2+ E30-40 tunes during the same dyno session

PM me if you meet the above.

Are we pushing boost numbers high enough to require a n20 3.5 bar map sensor with this new OTS?

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by Daleb

Are we pushing boost numbers high enough to require a n20 3.5 bar map sensor with this new OTS?

He’s keeping it right under for now, so about 21psi max at the moment.

We tried taking boost up to 23+ with an N20 TMAP, but my poor little Dinan turbo didn’t make anymore power doing so.

[Daleb]

Originally Posted by ZM2

He’s keeping it right under for now, so about 21psi max at the moment.

We tried taking boost up to 23+ with an N20 TMAP, but my poor little Dinan turbo didn’t make anymore power doing so.

Cool, at least you aren't running unnecessary boost creating unwanted heat. I'd maybe still chuck on my n20 tmap since its so close to the 21.7 psi max on the oem tmap.

Would like to of helped with the testing but I still don't have my HPFP and dynojets are few and far between over here.

Looking forward to these results coming out!

[ejc]

S55 Dual HPFP kit also can be fitted onto the N55 M2

[Bee Pee]

Originally Posted by ejc

S55 Dual HPFP kit also can be fitted onto the N55 M2

yes at double the parts and probably 50% up on labour if not doing a DIY

[boldy1]

Originally Posted by ejc

S55 Dual HPFP kit also can be fitted onto the N55 M2

Any special coding ect needed? And where did you find this out as I emailed spoon asking but didn't get a reply

[i531m]

http://www.psdesignsglobal.com/_shop...ctory-upgrade/


Dual pump

[ZM2]

Stage 2 from Dorch or Spool are less than half the price, easier to install, easier to “turn on” via BM3 or MHD, and flow plenty enough for anything you’re going to do with the N55.

And, several xdi guys have had issues with TTFS support, so I’d steer well clear.

[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Halim is looking for a volunteer to try the new OTS Stg 2+ E30-40 map before finalizing the OTS version. Requirements:

-Stock turbo
-FBO
-Aftermarket HPFP installed
-Can immediately send Stg 2 E30 logs for review
-Can do logs on his new map this coming week
-Can get on a Dynojet (only, no other dyno types) in the next 1-2-weeks
-Will dyno Stock, Stg 2 E30, and Stg 2+ E30-40 tunes during the same dyno session

PM me if you meet the above.

Does he think stock turbo has more power left in it? I thought general consensus is that both the turbo and fuel pump are about equal bottlenecks. So upgrading the pump while keeping stock turbo wasn't recommended, unless you want lots of power down low and it to fall off quite quickly up top.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

Does he think stock turbo has more power left in it? I thought general consensus is that both the turbo and fuel pump are about equal bottlenecks. So upgrading the pump while keeping stock turbo wasn't recommended, unless you want lots of power down low and it to fall off quite quickly up top.

That’s what we’re going to find out!

Based on my work with my Dinan turbo I think you could get another 25whp out of the stock turbo. But we need some volunteers to find out!

[Daleb]

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

Does he think stock turbo has more power left in it? I thought general consensus is that both the turbo and fuel pump are about equal bottlenecks. So upgrading the pump while keeping stock turbo wasn't recommended, unless you want lots of power down low and it to fall off quite quickly up top.

The limited dragy times we have show an improvement with an upgraded hpfp, so the stock turbo has more to give.

Over here a few guys have done an upgraded hpfp with 99 ron (93) and gained 20-30 bhp. Gains on e30/40 should obviously be greater.