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      05-20-2019, 12:37 PM   #529
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It's super hard to gain weight by eating clean. Without processed junk and frequently eating out it's impossible for me.

Even after making time for meal prep it's just not possible to eat it all. I don't have a desk job so having my food right next to me all day is not an option.
I was in that "cycle" for years. I looked good, a little bigger than average, and always lean. Kind of like one of those male gymnasts you see on the rings or something.

It wasn't until I started training with my current partner that he straight up told me that if I ever wanted to put on any real size and strength, I was going to have to up my calories even if it meant eating dirty. He said hit your protein requirements, then hit some Big Macs and Pizza or something.

Do that and train like your life depended on it always pushing to lift heavier and heavier...and your body can't help but to grow.

3 years or so of that put close to 25lbs of lean muscle on me.

Only reason I am back to eating healthy year round now is because of my age. Size wise I am happy, and I usually stay within 10-15lbs of my "beach weight".

It's a lot easier to hold onto muscle than to build it in the first place.
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I was in that "cycle" for years. I looked good, a little bigger than average, and always lean. Kind of like one of those male gymnasts you see on the rings or something.

It wasn't until I started training with my current partner that he straight up told me that if I ever wanted to put on any real size and strength, I was going to have to up my calories even if it meant eating dirty. He said hit your protein requirements, then hit some Big Macs and Pizza or something.

Do that and train like your life depended on it always pushing to lift heavier and heavier...and your body can't help but to grow.

3 years or so of that put close to 25lbs of lean muscle on me.

Only reason I am back to eating healthy year round now is because of my age. Size wise I am happy, and I usually stay within 10-15lbs of my "beach weight".

It's a lot easier to hold onto muscle than to build it in the first place.
I did this 4 years ago and went overboard up to 190 lbs lol (I'm 5'10"). Wasn't straight up eating garbage but wasn't eating clean either. Looked like the Michelin Man.

But yeah I've got to do something to up those calories and protein. Stuck at like 167 lbs.
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      05-20-2019, 05:21 PM   #531
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190 at 5 foot 10 isnt out of bounds at all
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190 at 5 foot 10 isnt out of bounds at all
No kidding. I'm 5'10 and fluctuate between 185 and 190 without even trying and fairly lean.
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      05-20-2019, 07:04 PM   #533
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Yeah im.6.foot trying to push to 220 or the magic 100 kilos for some time now.
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It's super hard to gain weight by eating clean. Without processed junk and frequently eating out it's impossible for me.

Even after making time for meal prep it's just not possible to eat it all. I don't have a desk job so having my food right next to me all day is not an option.


same here...



what would you guys suggest as some "quick" snacks, or foods to eat while on the go to add in some cals between meals? i've been eating at night before bed which i know is god awful, but at least i know i'm not starving in my sleep
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      05-20-2019, 10:01 PM   #535
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same here...



what would you guys suggest as some "quick" snacks, or foods to eat while on the go to add in some cals between meals? i've been eating at night before bed which i know is god awful, but at least i know i'm not starving in my sleep
That's not awful at all I do it on purpose every day. Make gh at night roughly every 90 minutes during rem need building blocks on board for that. I luckily get my breaks at work so can eat every 2ish hrs all day. For in between times I rely on protein powders now cuz easy.
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190 at 5 foot 10 isnt out of bounds at all
190 lb is fine if you're lean like a football player. But I looked like a balloon, especially my face. I think BF hit 22%.
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what would you guys suggest as some "quick" snacks, or foods to eat while on the go to add in some cals between meals? i've been eating at night before bed which i know is god awful, but at least i know i'm not starving in my sleep
ThinkThin is the best protein bar I've ever had when it comes to taste and price.

Then there's Premier Protein shakes (sold at Costco) which are nice for on the go.

Otherwise I'm just as clueless as you are.
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      05-21-2019, 07:43 AM   #538
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what would you guys suggest as some "quick" snacks, or foods to eat while on the go to add in some cals between meals? i've been eating at night before bed which i know is god awful, but at least i know i'm not starving in my sleep
As long as you are getting enough protein.....start adding in healthy fats.

Almonds are a great calorie dense "go-to" food. Almond Butter, Peanut Butter, Walnuts. Just a handful or couple tablespoons of that between meals can easily boost caloric intake.

Plus "fats" play an essential role in the regulating of the body's hormones and aids in supporting healthy Test levels.
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Like Rmtt said Peanut butter is my go to. Late night snacks for myself include greek yogurt, rice cake w/ PB, english muffin w/ pb, just pb lol, and eggs.

Haven't posted here in a while due to vacation two weeks ago (proposed to the long time GF down there, she said yes so that was great) and travel for work last week. I'm down to a resting 190 (5' 10") from my usual resting weight of around 198-200. Going to just keep the ball rolling and cut some more for the summer. Doesn't seem like I have lost too much muscle mass even though I was drinking life a fish from the 4th to the 11th this month.

Finally got a proper gym day in yesterday, back/tri. Today is shoulder/bi and I am pumped up about it! Due to the weight loss my goal of a sub 21min 5k is becoming closer and closer (currently at around a 7min 15sec mile pace).

Need to start bringing a towel to the gym, their AC units can't keep up with the heat so I usually end up drenched from head to toe in there.
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Due to the weight loss my goal of a sub 21min 5k is becoming closer and closer (currently at around a 7min 15sec mile pace).
Way back in my prime, I did a few low 22s. BUT, back then we had to run uphill, both ways, barefoot in the snow. #whippersnappers

Weight is my biggest issue for running these days. At 5' 9 3/4" I'm wearing 203 on average. Pounding that much on 53yo joints really is becoming an issue. I am doing 10:15 pace these days. I need to drop 15-20lbs to be able to continue to run/play soccer, but I just love food so much . . .
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Way back in my prime, I did a few low 22s. BUT, back then we had to run uphill, both ways, barefoot in the snow. #whippersnappers

Weight is my biggest issue for running these days. At 5' 9 3/4" I'm wearing 203 on average. Pounding that much on 53yo joints really is becoming an issue. I am doing 10:15 pace these days. I need to drop 15-20lbs to be able to continue to run/play soccer, but I just love food so much . . .
Sounds like some brutal running conditions!

This is the most conditioned I've been in a long while. 205 compared to 190 is night and day. When I first started back up running around November or so I was around 205, a lot of ankle and knee pain, but all of that has dwindled from what I suspect the weight loss as well as just getting my joints use to the impact. I have also upped the intensity of my leg days in an attempt to get that pace even lower. I'll mix in days of longer runs near 5miles then 5Ks at a more aggressive pace. When I run with my fiance I experience a lot more joint pain because of the slowed pace, when I'm moving full speed my joints feel like butter!
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Sounds like some brutal running conditions!
T-rex is a real motivation to keep going, too!
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what would you guys suggest as some "quick" snacks, or foods to eat while on the go to add in some cals between meals? i've been eating at night before bed which i know is god awful, but at least i know i'm not starving in my sleep
Almonds, protein bars and I've recently started mixing eggs with green peppers, onions and smoked brats; putting them in muffin pans and baking them. Whenever I need a snack, I just pop one of those in the microwave. Protein, veggies and fats without having to cook. I also put a little peanut butter on chocolate rice cakes as a snack; pretty tasty.
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Like Rmtt said Peanut butter is my go to. Late night snacks for myself include greek yogurt, rice cake w/ PB, english muffin w/ pb, just pb lol, and eggs.

Haven't posted here in a while due to vacation two weeks ago (proposed to the long time GF down there, she said yes so that was great) and travel for work last week. I'm down to a resting 190 (5' 10") from my usual resting weight of around 198-200. Going to just keep the ball rolling and cut some more for the summer. Doesn't seem like I have lost too much muscle mass even though I was drinking life a fish from the 4th to the 11th this month.

Finally got a proper gym day in yesterday, back/tri. Today is shoulder/bi and I am pumped up about it! Due to the weight loss my goal of a sub 21min 5k is becoming closer and closer (currently at around a 7min 15sec mile pace).

Need to start bringing a towel to the gym, their AC units can't keep up with the heat so I usually end up drenched from head to toe in there.
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Congrats!
+1......That's very cool man!
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I'm starting my second week at 3000 calories a day still seeing where my baseline is. Wanted to get the water off of me first so I can start seeing where I need to settle in at. Veins in my chest and shoulders are starting to come out just from the small water loss.

I don't want to drop too quickly and was 203 this morning. My body seems to thrive when on a diet. Energy goes up, training intensity goes up, and as I get leaner...enthusiasm goes way up.

But at 5'7".....I can tell you now that I will not be running at this weight. I will get my cardio done in other ways.
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Lies calorie deficit doesnt equal energy!
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Lies calorie deficit doesnt equal energy!
LOL...maybe some of the food I was eating was contributing to feeling a little sluggish?

Too many years of eating too clean....now if I eat something not particularly good for you...I feel like crap for a few hours.

But going back to what I am used to eating...everything "clicks". Keeping blood glucose levels steady probably has something to do with it as well.
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I'm starting my second week at 3000 calories a day still seeing where my baseline is. Wanted to get the water off of me first so I can start seeing where I need to settle in at. Veins in my chest and shoulders are starting to come out just from the small water loss.

I don't want to drop too quickly and was 203 this morning. My body seems to thrive when on a diet. Energy goes up, training intensity goes up, and as I get leaner...enthusiasm goes way up.

But at 5'7".....I can tell you now that I will not be running at this weight. I will get my cardio done in other ways.
My energy goes up while dieting as well, that said I can't sustain my lifts as well. I'll usually lift for an hour 15 or so, when dieting I'll start dwindling come the one hour mark, more of a muscular fatigue than a lack of energy if you know what I mean.
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