[Hegge]

I guess the specs of the car will be announced on Wednesday so everything should be cleared up then?

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Hegge

I guess the specs of the car will be announced on Wednesday so everything should be cleared up then?

I think I had this question previously and it boiled down to Euro vs US conversion. I stopped worrying about because we will know before orders open and this car seems to have been designed with perfection of driving experience in mind

[dmboone25]

So is the reveal November 6th or not?

[Tornado1M]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I think I had this question previously and it boiled down to Euro vs US conversion. I stopped worrying about because we will know before orders open and this car seems to have been designed with perfection of driving experience in mind

That still seems pretty low for a car with 445hp? That can't be correct, can it?

[medphysdave]

A lot has to do with the area under the curve as well. I suspect the 409 figure is correct.

[VCP]

This M will not disappoint in any manner.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mtoosexy

Did i see correctly? The torque may be lowered to 358 or 368 or something? i dont like the sound of that(i seldom track).

Originally Posted by medphysdave

A lot has to do with the area under the curve as well. I suspect the 409 figure is correct.

550Nm.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by Artemis

550Nm.

= 406 ft lbs

[Chapman1977]

Don't know if it's been posted before - A German magazine (Auto Bild Sportcars) has the M2 CS in their version of a "Supertest" in the next issue, available from 8th November.

Cheers

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by VCP

This M will not disappoint in any manner.

Current BMW M boss Markus Flasch very recently (see here):

“The M135i xDrive is very attractive in the performance segment but if you really want high performance, customers will always go for the M2. (The M2) is the most charismatic and purest model that we have and we’re working on a successor. There is no reason to do something different with the 1 Series.”
Mr Flasch confirmed at the M Festival the new small high-performance flagship, the M2 CS only previously caught in camouflage, will launch globally around the middle of 2020 to sit above the recently released Competition and to combat Audi RS3 and AMG A45.
As reported earlier, BMW M has no plan for red-hot 1 Series offering M2 levels of high performance.
“(The M2 CS) is probably the most crisp and pure BMW M model we have launched in quite some time,” Mr Flasch adds. “It’s phenomenal and drives like a race car with licence plates.”

[N54]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Current BMW M boss Markus Flasch very recently (see here):

“The M135i xDrive is very attractive in the performance segment but if you really want high performance, customers will always go for the M2. (The M2) is the most charismatic and purest model that we have and we’re working on a successor. There is no reason to do something different with the 1 Series.”
Mr Flasch confirmed at the M Festival the new small high-performance flagship, the M2 CS only previously caught in camouflage, will launch globally around the middle of 2020 to sit above the recently released Competition and to combat Audi RS3 and AMG A45.
As reported earlier, BMW M has no plan for red-hot 1 Series offering M2 levels of high performance.
“(The M2 CS) is probably the most crisp and pure BMW M model we have launched in quite some time,” Mr Flasch adds. “It’s phenomenal and drives like a race car with licence plates.”

Interesting
How can the CS combat the RS3 and A45s if it’s being made in strictly limited numbers ?

[Pol]

Originally Posted by N54

Interesting
How can the CS combat the RS3 and A45s if it’s being made in strictly limited numbers ?

In performance!

[N54]

Originally Posted by Pol

In performance!

It’s may be the fastest thing ever but if you can’t get one it’s irrelevant.

I’m sure Audi won’t be overly worried.

[medphysdave]

“Since the start of 2018 we have introduced more than 40 new and refreshed models to market. We will add to this total at the Los Angeles Auto Show later this month when we debut several more, ranging from the BMW M8 Gran Coupe and M2 CS, to electrified variants of two of our most important models, the BMW X3 and BMW 3 Series,” said Bernhard Kuhnt, president and CEO, BMW of North America

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

"Since the start of 2018 we have introduced more than 40 new and refreshed models to market. We will add to this total at the Los Angeles Auto Show later this month when we debut several more, ranging from the BMW M8 Gran Coupe and M2 CS, to electrified variants of two of our most important models, the BMW X3 and BMW 3 Series," said Bernhard Kuhnt, president and CEO, BMW of North America

Mr Kuhnt?!!

[BroDoze]

LOL!!

[Davil]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

Bernhard Kuhnt

Sounds like a mishap with cheap hair removal cream.

[Chapman1977]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Mr Kuhnt?!!

It's actually a fairly normal German name that we would pronounce something like

"Cooned"

Now we must move away from pussies to cars shall we?

[medphysdave]

Brembo CCB representation with operating range and mileage.

https://www.automoblog.net/2019/03/1..._1209-16/#main

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Hegge

Agree with you 10" a million percent. M2 CS has the potential to be a classic that may hold its value well. After this the cars will get even bigger, weigh more, no DCT, and a questionable grille. Although next M2 should still be RWD.
Plus the fact that the CS is limited edition makes it more valuable as it won't be around for long. A 911 Carrera S may be impressive but that costs more and will be available for the next 7 years sitting on the lots of any Porsche dealer.

I have seen the M2 CS up-close ('Fotofahrzeug' / 'Photo Vehicle' in the VIN specs) without all camouflage on static display (exterior, interior, engine bay & boot). Though I have not seen/heard it yet in motion IRL, videos of M2 CS prototypes lapping the Nürburgring and Hockenheimring in a poised 'ants in the pants' fashion, showcase the promise of something very interesting. Defining moment: right now it's on the brink of officially popping up on the Petrolhead Territories radar. The radar alarm blip has a message for competing brands: *woop-woop* "Cave canem !"

I posted the following in another thread:

Originally Posted by Artemis

It's no secret anymore that the M2 CS will be launched this month and produced next year. Very recently BMW M boss Markus Flasch coined it as "probably the most crisp and pure BMW M model we have launched in quite some time" and "it's phenomenal and drives like a race car with license plates" (see here).

The future will tell whether this new kid on the ///M block lives up to its high expectations. Based on what I know so far, I trust that the M2 CS is bound to become a very desirable BMW M car, a quintessential automotive gem setting a new beemer bliss benchmark: a properly sized, fast & powerful rear-wheel drive 4-seater with great driving dynamics, fine-tuned reliable 3.0 6-cyl powerhouse, cool design & presence, decent boot space, creature comforts and available with manual gear stick & M-DCT. You can comfortably drive your partner + two kids to the circuit, lap the circuit and all return home again with a smile, including a stop to pick up groceries. Quite practical and versatile/multipurpose.

Moreover, the M2 CS will also be one of the last models before BMW and BMW M fully implement the new 'design language' of big front end grilles. Very likely the last generation at the gates of the future era of 'grillefication', electrification, more front-wheel drive & all-wheel drive, more automatic/ZF transmission, less 6-cylinder & exhaust drama and further tightened regulations. And, hence, IMHO the M2 CS stands a good chance to be reputed as 'vintage'/'classic' in the future (so-called 'future classic'), a pinnacle car tech toy with still an 'analog' twist (instead of going fully digital) facilitating emotional connection.

But it risks to be a challenge to get hold of an allocation (build slot) (2200 cars worldwide, all built in 2020), features a peculiar Bavarian blue launch color and an immodest price-tag for a BMW 2er.

Unlike the E46 M3 CSL (SMGII), E92 M3 GTS, E90 M3 CRT, E92 DTM Champion Edition (Spengler), F82 M4 GTS, F82 DTM Champion Edition (Wittmann), F82 M4 CS, F80 M3 CS and F82 Heritage Edition, manual transmission will be available as standard feature on the M2 CS. BMW M boss Flash confirmed last Summer - in a general way about BMW M cars - that currently no plans exist to discontinue the manual gearbox (see for example here). However, almost certainly we won't see the M-DCT on the next generation M2 (G87). The M-DCT is on its way out.

[Bimmed Out]

Originally Posted by Chapman1977

Now we must move away from pussies to cars shall we?

Had to double check, thought I'd been misdirected to a Honda forum for a second.

[Chapman1977]

Originally Posted by kepler

Had to double check, thought I'd been misdirected to a Honda forum for a second.