[Rupes]

Originally Posted by Anthony1s

You just couldn't let us have an argument and stress free weekend, could you haha. I'm abstaining from commenting

At least it wasn't posted in the M2C forums.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by PilotxERAU

2022 S58 M2 beats all of you.

Beware what you wish for. The first spy picture below suggests that it needs lots of cooling. And going for the gloss black option to de-chrome will set you back the cost of a CCBs set.

[PilotxERAU]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Beware what you wish for. The first spy picture below suggests that it needs lots of cooling. And going for the gloss black option to de-chrome will set you back the cost of a CCBs set.

Attachment 2016620

[DanG]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Beware what you wish for. The first spy picture below suggests that it needs lots of cooling. And going for the gloss black option to de-chrome will set you back the cost of a CCBs set.

Attachment 2016620

Hmm. Looks like an X7.

[D22M2]

Spot on review

[GoneIn4Secs]

I drove home tonight on the hwy, changed lanes to the empty right lanes and acelerated past the rest of the traffic, in 2 sec i was 20 leagues ahead of the rest of em

I felt like a OG superhero

[mr_lab_rat]

Did the suspension really change? I thought it was the same.

Anyway, I haven't driven the M2C but I don't really want to. Sound is very important to me and that's where the OG shines. I also prefer the look of the OG.

[KO7]

I know the topic of the N55 sound being superior is a dead horse that's been pulverized endlessly (I've lurked for years), but I've recently gotten my dream car and want to chime in anyway.

Prior to getting my OG M2 at a terrific deal, I never lusted after the M2c the same way as I did for the OG. After hearing both of them in person, I knew I would only go for the N55 when the right one became available. After only ever having owned Hondas and VWs previously, the sound is intoxicating and puts a smile on my face every single drive. It didn't matter to me what other areas the M2c improved on, just like how I would choose the 981 Cayman over the 718 purely because of sound.

[M-Azing]

Originally Posted by KO7

I know the topic of the N55 sound being superior is a dead horse that's been pulverized endlessly (I've lurked for years), but I've recently gotten my dream car and want to chime in anyway.

Prior to getting my OG M2 at a terrific deal, I never lusted after the M2c the same way as I did for the OG. After hearing both of them in person, I knew I would only go for the N55 when the right one became available. After only ever having owned Hondas and VWs previously, the sound is intoxicating and puts a smile on my face every single drive. It didn't matter to me what other areas the M2c improved on, just like how I would choose the 981 Cayman over the 718 purely because of sound.

Originally Posted by KO7

I know the topic of the N55 sound being superior is a dead horse that's been pulverized endlessly (I've lurked for years), but I've recently gotten my dream car and want to chime in anyway.

Prior to getting my OG M2 at a terrific deal, I never lusted after the M2c the same way as I did for the OG. After hearing both of them in person, I knew I would only go for the N55 when the right one became available. After only ever having owned Hondas and VWs previously, the sound is intoxicating and puts a smile on my face every single drive. It didn't matter to me what other areas the M2c improved on, just like how I would choose the 981 Cayman over the 718 purely because of sound.

Looked at a ton of videos of the M2C...about being a real M, better handling, etc. But what keeps me holding onto my OG M2 is the amazing sound .. I have the MPE.. Curious to hear what all the critics have to say when they test drive an M2C fitted with the soon to be released MPE ...wonder if the M2C with MPE can ever be as intoxicating. Has anyone compared in real life (and driven) an M4C with MPE versus the OG M2 with MPE?

[dmboone25]

We have an OG M2 and an F80 ZCP, and I don’t agree with the reviewer comments about power delivery or how it feels between the two engines at all. The S55 feels much faster than the N550T0. This isn’t a criticism of the N55 because it’s a great engine, but it doesn’t feel faster.

But the N55 has always felt pretty “tame” in comparison to the S55 in my opinion. The M3, while certainly more refined, is a much angrier car than the M2. I attribute that perspective primarily to the engine, because the F80 is a little too big for my tastes, and the shorter wheelbase on the M2 is definitely more playful. Conversations about the sound aside, it’s clearly the more potent engine. That’s why the replacement for the F80, if it comes from BMW, will be the M2C for me.

The OG definitely sounds great too - there’s no doubt about that, and is such an important aspect for the enjoyment of a sports car. Can’t go wrong with either one.

[matty_f]

What a dumb review. He’d rather pay less money because he likes turbo lag and the sound of the N55.

[M Coupe]

I have not experienced turbo lag just foot lag.

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by matty_f

What a dumb review. He’d rather pay less money because he likes turbo lag and the sound of the N55.

He said he felt the m2c power delivery was bland and he felt more excited engaged when pushing the n55, due to the kick of overboost, felt more sense of occasion

I thinknthis illustrates the reasom why ppl say that too much power is not always the best thing for cars with shorter wheel base, in order to put down that high power to the wheels, it has to be delivered in more controlled fashion which has its benefits and downsides

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

We have an OG M2 and an F80 ZCP, and I don't agree with the reviewer comments about power delivery or how it feels between the two engines at all. The S55 feels much faster than the N550T0. This isn't a criticism of the N55 because it's a great engine, but it doesn't feel faster.

But the N55 has always felt pretty "tame" in comparison to the S55 in my opinion. The M3, while certainly more refined, is a much angrier car than the M2. I attribute that perspective primarily to the engine, because the F80 is a little too big for my tastes, and the shorter wheelbase on the M2 is definitely more playful. Conversations about the sound aside, it's clearly the more potent engine. That's why the replacement for the F80, if it comes from BMW, will be the M2C for me.

The OG definitely sounds great too - there's no doubt about that, and is such an important aspect for the enjoyment of a sports car. Can't go wrong with either one.

My OG M2 (N55) felt fast at all speeds and RPMs. Was hard if not impossible to catch off guard. My M3 (S55) is much more sluggish down low and needs to build the power (and once it gets there, hold on).

I really miss the N55. I don't and or can't drive at crazy speeds in Chicago. It is much more stop and go and the N55 is superior there.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

Did the suspension really change? I thought it was the same.

Anyway, I haven't driven the M2C but I don't really want to. Sound is very important to me and that's where the OG shines. I also prefer the look of the OG.

The suspension definitely didn't change one bit, with the exception of the mythical strut brace, that apparently transformed handling of the M2C into a Lamborghini, according to some folks.

This is the same company that used the same exact mirrors, switches, seats from that M4 to save a buck; they're a parts bin junkie.

No way they went back to the drawing board for new suspension and choose not to plaster it on every marketing pamphlet.

However, everyone that has an M2C claims it "feels" better and since I haven't drove one, I have to take their word for it.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by doug_999

My OG M2 (N55) felt fast at all speeds and RPMs. Was hard if not impossible to catch off guard. My M3 (S55) is much more sluggish down low and needs to build the power (and once it gets there, hold on).

I really miss the N55. I don't and or can't drive at crazy speeds in Chicago. It is much more stop and go and the N55 is superior there.

I don’t get that at all - I always drive in Sport + and in manual mode on the DCT...you just have to push the gas pedal and the S55 will give you all you can handle, and then some. Maybe that’s just me....

[GerardzM]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

I don’t get that at all - I always drive in Sport + and in manual mode on the DCT...you just have to push the gas pedal and the S55 will give you all you can handle, and then some. Maybe that’s just me....

I always thought this was the case.

If I'm not mistaken, the power curve is higher at just about every point above...1.5/2k RPMs?


Contemplating getting an S55 powered vehicle since I'm no longer living in a crowded city. Can let the legs stretch.

[nosbocaj]

Good article. He sums up what I would love to take from the M2C: the brakes, suspension, and M buttons. Other than that I agree that the N55 is just fun and the look is aggressive without being too in your face. Plus, as somebody who bought a new 18' last August at the very end of their production run, the $10k in savings was also a nice feature...

It's almost never mentioned, but I also think the 437M are far better looking wheels than the 788M. If I had an M2C, the FIRST thing I would do is try to trade them away or upgrade to 763M's.

[Karmic Man]

The S55 in the M2C does feel more sluggish before 3K. After 3K all hell breaks loose and can rev to 7600 before limiter cuts in.

I am starting to full throttle my newish M2C and the S55 does not disappoint! An M motor indeed!

[gtr]

The M2c is improved and better. What this editor wants is an old school raw M mode. The programmed drive by wire with the turbo charger makes it feel normally aspirated and easier to drive is not working for him. Give him the GT350r.

[Io]

A pity we can't have a mix of both M2 versions: the S55 but with the sound of the N55; the seats, big brakes, carbon strut, improved steering, and M-mirrors of the M2C but with the front grill, wheels and discrete muffler of the OG M2. And, unlike both M2s, a decent suspension usable even on bumpy roads. I tried a M2C recently, I found it great, improved in many aspects, but I immediately recognized the too stiff and jumpy stock suspension of my OG, even if I admit that the car felt more composed and reassuring in fast curves (thanks to the strut bar?).

[eatingpizzainthef87rules]

OG LCI M2 with two buckets + Ohlins + CS steering flash = perfect car.