11-27-2017, 05:01 PM | #23 | ||
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I really can't spent $60k on a 2nd (recreational) vehicle. But if used ones start falling in to the mid $40's, where some 2016's ought to be, things will get a bit more interesting for sure. Quote:
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11-27-2017, 06:07 PM | #24 | |
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I still think that a base M2 competition won’t have a huge price increase over the current M2.Probably no more than 3k over the price of the MY18 M2. |
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11-27-2017, 06:13 PM | #25 |
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I hope I'm wrong, but no way it's only $3k. BMW isn't making much on these cars to begin with, and the S55 has to cost them quite a bit more to manufacture than the N55. Just under $60k sounds like a realistic target for them.
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11-27-2017, 07:12 PM | #26 | |
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A modest $3k increase wouldn't justify a CS or Comp label; I think that would just be a '19 or '20 M2. I wouldn't expect base model MSRP to be below $65k, nicely optioned in low $70s. |
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11-27-2017, 07:32 PM | #28 |
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No way it will be that much.The M2 competition is not a CS or M3 with the competition package.It is a brand new model with the current M2 being discontinued.I am basing my opinion on the info that has been posted on the forum.If you look at the VIN decoder info on the mules that have already been produced,you will see that there will still be a base M2 without options,being very similar to the specs of the current M2,except the S55 engine.I don’t think there will be a huge price increase just for the S55 engine.
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11-28-2017, 09:53 AM | #29 | ||
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If people are thinking 3 to 5k increase then I see why they're waiting. Prepare for disappointment however.
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They won't cannibalize M4 sales by undercutting it by alot...even the base. A loaded M2 CS will likely be at or near the starting price of a base M4. Loaded being with the one or two minor packages similar to the current M2 in the US.
My prediction: Base M4: 65.5k Base M2 CS: 61k Loaded M2 CS w/ DCT: 67k |
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11-28-2017, 06:54 PM | #32 | |
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There are two reasons why the price won't increase much more than 5-8%, IMO. One, as stated, they don't want to cannibalise sales of the more profitable models. Two, a lot of the reason the M2 exists in the first place is to allow younger people to buy into the M brand (I fall into this category). I simply don't want to spend another 10k, I'm near my comfort limit already.
Here in Vancouver my local dealer has two new 2017's still in the showroom, and a 7000km 2016 in stock as well. They have another LCI allocation for a stock build as well, set for production in a couple weeks. Ultimately because of all these rumours I didn't put my name on that 2018 build and actually put a deposit down on an RS3, to at least give myself a couple options come spring. I don't suspect finding a "base" M2 will be difficult at that time if I decide to go that route. |
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In Long Island NY and Queens, 6 brand new 2018s been sitting for months. MSRP 58-61.5K. dealers will give $1500-2000 off. Not enough incentive. All mainly DCT.
Perception is reality and as soon as CS is officially announced, the discount will greater and the 2016-2017 market will fall. Its a waiting game, don't rush. I have to laugh at used dealerships in the tri state NY area that have 2016 with 10-15K miles on speedo asking $56-60K still LMAO....they too have sat for 90 plus days. |
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Several of the 1Ms that I saw listed for sale back then, are STILL for sale, by the same dealers, and the prices have not been reduced. Most of them were undesirable for one reason or another, such as prior accidents, mediocre physical condition, etc. Still, they remain on the lot with the same dealers for sale and prices have not necessarily budged. One can speculate why this would be the case; it obviously makes no economic sense. One possible explanation is that the dealers have no intention of selling these cars except for more than they are worth, that the presence of the car on their lots, in their showrooms, is for the purpose of attracting "traffic," so that people can then be sold something else. When viewed like that, the carrying cost of the vehicle is basically a part of their advertising/marketing budget. Obviously, having multiple, overpriced, 2018 M2s on your lot is pretty stupid from any perspective. |
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11-29-2017, 11:59 AM | #43 | |
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Well said about the depreciation. I just can't justify wasting that much money on a 2nd/fun car. I've done well many times on new cars e36 M3, e46 M3 and WRX STI. They all held their value exceptionally well, compared to other cars, but the way the M2 has stayed up there for the first 2 years is not normal and sooner or later the bottom will fall out........at least to a certain extend. |
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People talk like the M2 CS will be available in mass quantities. Once it's released and the mark-up game starts all over again demand for the standard M2 will be just as strong, since potential CS buyers decide the OG M2 will satisfy them.
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