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Manual for engagement on the street, but on track I'd always rather be in a DCT to keep both hands on the wheel and not worry about missing a shift. I had DCT in my E90 M3 and it was a great transmission, I get a ton of satisfaction from the manual in the M2C even just putting around. Really can't go wrong with either transmission, sometimes I wish I had one of each!
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For a DCT lover like me that's a non starter so I would hypothetically be getting the marketing transmission (MT) if I got into a newer model. However. My plan is to get CS with DCT and keep it for a long long time. So it's likely this decision won't affect me. If for some reason the CS does not arrive then I'll be keeping my M2C for a long long time. |
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Then I'm fairly sure these are the last DCT cars this generation. Starting with the F90 M5s these cars were all going 8AT rather than DCT. So automatics live on (and are the norm) but DCT itself seems to be replaced.
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Although it allots for lightening fast shift speeds, bar none to most; it never really became mainstream as the automatic transmission does, which modern automatics are equivalent in shifts and power to its dual clutch counterpart, not to mention it adds $0 to the sticker price. Cool tech and I appreciate its existence but it never really found its niche market to retain staying power.. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...sion-problems/ |
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Poochie and JCZ5 are right. DCT and PDK are faster than manual. The DCT in the CS is 0.2 seconds faster than the manual. Most new 911's today come with PDK. It is a shame that the next generation M2, M3, and M4 won't have a DCT just a ZF8 automatic.
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Oh no! More fuel to the fire!
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I would love the discuss the nuances and quirks of both gearboxes, in an amicable manner but it somehow always morphs into a pissing match, so that will never happen but one can dream. |
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Yes. There are many men that cast judgement on other men's choices whilst desiring nothing more then to have their hands all over a knob. I'm not judging. Just enjoy what you like.
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I feel like we need a team building event to bring unity to the M2 forum. How about we mosey on over to the i3 forum and let those guys know how we feel about electric vs. internal combustion engines?
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Honestly if this car only came in DCT, i'd probably still buy it. However if i strictly wanted a MT, i probably would have jumped back into another 86, or waited for the GR 86 to come out. |
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I wouldn't have. This is a fun car and should come with a proper transmission. But you're right, choices are REALLY limited when it comes to sports cars with an actual 6 speed. M4, 911 (which is out of my budget), 718 Cayman, maybe a C7 but I would rather get a C8.
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Even though i would have bought this if it only came with a DCT, i am very happy i got it in a MT. It is so satisfying to drive for me. Its probably why i would have just gone with another 86. |
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I cringe a little bit when I imagine myself owning any of those cars. The way your cat feels when you try to pet it back to front is how I feel when I drive a pony car. But they still exist and are still fantastic deals. Don't forget the $60K Mustang has a higher redline AND makes 500+ hp. And all of them can be had with a manual. Personally, if the M2C didn't come with a manual, i'd have probably just hung on to my money. There is absolutely nothing wrong with liking/tolerating an auto/automated manual, but that's not me. Just a personal preference. |
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