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This guy winters. "Performance winter" == I want to be able to take it out in light snow, but if there's a real blizzard, I get in my G wagen / some other AWD beast thing snow / ice tire == I actually need to drive this car in snow and ice, I have no second car I have Michelin XIce3 only because I couldn't easily get my hands on Nokian Hakka R2s in the time window I had before winter hit. (Xice3 are stocked by TireRack so easy) I've mentioned this elsewhere on this subforum, but a year ago we had a huge storm not long after Christmas, probably a foot or more of snow and plows couldn't keep up (plus holidays). I drove across town, including freeway, through all sorts of mess. No problems. Watched a Honda Civic get stuck in snow at a traffic light turning left. So much snow that you couldn't even begin to see lane lines or anything, he was kind of cheating to center even though I think it's only a 2-lane street. He was stuck partway into the intersection; I was able to turn right at the same light and get around him without any trouble. One sketchy time when I hit black ice on an overpass on the freeway - first time I've ever actually experienced the whole "bridge freezes first" thing, there were cars slid off the highway all over the place. I got a little squirrelly but I just gently came off throttle and slowed, and then applied some brake once I quelled the momentum from the back end (it was a banked turn overpass). That was the one time I wished I had studded tires. So yeah, there are really two schools of thought with "winter tires." You either want something that is more flexible (i.e. doesn't turn hard like a hockey puck when cold) than a summer tire but is still mostly dry-performance-focused, or you want something that actually deals with deep snow and ice. It really comes down to whether you have other cars to drive, or if you know what lake effect snow is... Without real snowfall amounts, the "performance winter" stuff makes sense.
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i have the same winters on my SQ5. they performed very well.
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I have them on our Maser and it's fine with AWD but I never used them on my M3s nor would I on my current M2c. |
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10-10-2019, 09:46 PM | #29 |
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What wheels did you get?
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For winter use on my '17 M2 I got a square setup with 18X9 RIAL P10 BLK PAINT wheels.
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I plan to drive my M2 as my DD this winter on Hakka 8 235/40/R18 square. It's much narrower than stock at the rear so it's better for traction in snowy/slushy conditions at the expense of better grip in dry weather.
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PA4s worked fine driving across all of Canada in January. I used them all winter here in NB where we see some of the most snowfall in Canada.
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I recently bought a 2017 M2 (dark grey) and am looking to buy a winter setup for it. Has anyone used the MSW TYPE 73?
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I've had Nokian R2's on my M3 and they were unstoppable in snow and ice. Never a concern. But in the dry, my traction light flashed constantly under any throttle at all. Very frustrating not being able to accelerate at even a moderate pace. Some reviews say the PA4s are fine but others say stay away if you get constant snow. Can you tell me more about your commute and flat versus hilly driving? Otherwise I am leaning going with a studless tire again, probably the Viking 7. |
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Now have X-ice xi3 square in the M2, we'll see this winter... Last edited by 1mm2; 11-03-2019 at 08:41 PM.. |
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Just an idea of how much snow we can get overnight here.
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Glad to hear that your commute on 684 was not a problem. I'm trying to picture the hill from 287 to 684 but I'm drawing a blank. |
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i just found out the the Pirelli Sottozero 3 comes with 275/35/19. i will pair those up with my 255/35/19 fronts mounted on the stock 788s. now i have an extra set of 255/35/19 (with only 2000 miles)...anyone want them for $300? you can pair them with a new set of 275s which you can order from TR. send me PM.
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Just put my Sottozero Serie 2's on. In 265/35 front and 285/35 rear. It's crazy how much taller a tire they are than the 255/275 summer setup I was running. I can only squeeze 1 finger in the rear fender gap now. I'm lowered on KW V3's, 2 clicks stiffer than factory settings btw. And I'm at the height settings dinan recommends for their lowering springs. Rears also stick out a bit from the fender. Look like they'll rub, but so far haven't. Fronts turn lock to lock with no rubbing and are still inside the fender, but I think that's because of the factory camber. I have 5mm spacers I might try in the front someday.
It hasn't snowed yet, but it's been in the mid 20s Fahrenheit and my summer tires would spin in 3rd gear rolling into ~25% throttle. So far I haven't been able to get the winter rears to spin at all. And I've pushed it a lot harder than I have in a while. I'm sure I can get them to spin if I try harder, but I'm still getting used to the tires. I'm FBO BM3 Stg2 too. Forecast doesn't predict snow at all for the rest of the month, but I'm excited to try them in the snow. I feel it's gonna be like learning the car all over again and I'm gonna push it a little harder than I should. But hey, that's what empty parking lots are for. |
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