[Who's on first]

I am clearly in the minority here, but I like that I got the standard LCI M2. Maybe because I have an M4, with ZCP.

Driving the M2 is simpler and sometimes more comfy. Besides, the wife loves the seats, always has since our m235i, back in 2014. We are taking a cross country trip (coast to coast) in the M4.. I'm swapping the passenger seats just for her.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Magazines usually are not that far off. However when I traded my civic M4, for my M4 with ZCP, I think that option was $5,150?

So the M2 competition isn't an "option"... but a refreshed car... you still get way more with that, then the upgrades on the M4.

That's the part I'm having trouble with (pricing wise).

Yes, I paid $5500 for Comp Package on my M4 as well when it came out. However, M4 Comp didn't replace M4 base so they kept a certain gap between the two to let people justify their purchase and make their choice. M2 Competition is not the Comp Package that we saw in M4 or other models. It's replacing the base M2 all together and becoming the new entry level M. It has competitors like A45 AMG and RS3. Therefore, its price has to stay competitive.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Yes, I paid $5500 for Comp Package on my M4 as well when it came out. However, M4 Comp didn't replace M4 base so they kept a certain gap between the two to let people justify their purchase and make their choice. M2 Competition is not the Comp Package that we saw in M4 or other models. It's replacing the base M2 all together and becoming the new entry level M. It has competitors like A45 AMG and RS3. Therefore, its price has to stay competitive.

You're right... was $5,500... I get it.. need to stay in a price range for a couple reasons.. just tough to see BMW, basically giving the upgrades away.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

Driving the M2 is simpler and sometimes more comfy. Besides, the wife loves the seats, always has since our m235i, back in 2014. We are taking a cross country trip (coast to coast) in the M4.. I'm swapping the passenger seats just for her.

Tell your wife the M4 seats in the M2C seats are an option. Base seats remain if you so choose.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Tell you wife the M4 seats in the M2C seats are an option. Base seats remain if you so choose.

I would've been better off without that information thank you very much. [IMG][/IMG]

[M2 CSL]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I wanna see the "Team $10k+ markup" too I kept saying from the beginning that the starting price would be less than $60k.

It weighs more than a 4 door AWD Audi!

Who would pay more than $10k difference for a heavier car that has virtually the same suspension as the base M2?

The s55 and seats have always been a non issue for me.

I'd pay up for less weight and upgraded suspension though, neither of which this has. So $1k sounds about right to me

[Rupes]

Can you imagine if you owned the m235i when it came out, then saw the M2, and decided to make the plunge and trade? Then you discovered an LCI 2018 model that you just had to have, now discover for a small price, you can upgrade to the S55 version...

Ugh, what's next?? It's not like they could make a switch to the S58 in a couple years, amiright?

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Who's on first

You're right... was $5,500... I get it.. need to stay in a price range for a couple reasons.. just tough to see BMW, basically giving the upgrades away.

The upgrades...as in the seats, brakes, wheels, perforated leather, etc. They are all options. Hence the 1% price increase stated by EVO.

[Grimlock85]

Has anyone photoshopped the stock m2 wheels onto the competition images? since all we see are the optional wheels, i'm wondering what it looks like with the stock m2 wheels

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

The upgrades...as in the seats, brakes, wheels, perforated leather, etc. They are all options. Hence the 1% price increase stated by EVO.

This makes the most sense to me, as far as the magazine price.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteM2

"The DCT box didn't suit the old M2" who writes this rubbish :

Par for the course for every car journalist to maintain their driver street cred.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by M2 CSL

It weighs more than a 4 door AWD Audi!

Who would pay more than $10k difference for a heavier car that has the EXACT same suspension as the base M2?

The s55 and seats have always been a non issue for me.

I'd pay up for less weight and upgraded suspension though, neither of which this has. So $1k sounds about right to me

Well good for you. N55 has always been the issue for me not getting the M2 so even if the price jump was $10K, I was ready to pay that amount just for the S55.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by M2 CSL

Who would pay more than $10k difference for a heavier car that has the EXACT same suspension as the base M2?

There is chassis stiffening via the carbon strut brace and addition bracing at bulkhead. Suspension received ball joints to increase stiffness and precision.

[Who's on first]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

The upgrades...as in the seats, brakes, wheels, perforated leather, etc. They are all options. Hence the 1% price increase stated by EVO.

That changes everything. Lol.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Grimlock85

Has anyone photoshopped the stock m2 wheels onto the competition images? since all we see are the optional wheels, i'm wondering what it looks like with the stock m2 wheels

[M3_WC]

Since it is now confirmed M2C has received stability control retuning like M4 CS. I would like to know if it also got the electronic steering retuning as well.

[M2 CSL]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Well good for you. N55 has always been the issue for me not getting the M2 so even if the price jump was $10K, I was ready to pay that amount just for the S55.

Well, better for you!

[akkando]

I'm just trying to calm down and tell myself I should re evaluate buying one mid to late 2019 and maybe making a purchase early 2020.

The price coming in low or high sort of doesn't matter because either way the car is a bargain but my M2 depreciates a lot, or the car has a good price bump but I am able to resell the N55 M2 for more.. so either way it's going to be a costly upgrade if I chose to do it.

If the price increase is really only 1.2% that's an insane bargain. BMW rekt by emissions forcing their hand to put out basically an M4 in a 2 series body for more than 10k less than the M4. Truly a gift to those who waited.

[M-Pilot]

Quick question... Do we know the weight figure quoted in the magazine belongs to the base model with 6MT or the press car that is shown with optional wheels and bigger brakes?

[Tag]

Originally Posted by akkando

If the price increase is really only 1.2% that's an insane bargain. BMW rekt by emissions forcing their hand to put out basically an M4 in a 2 series body for more than 10k less than the M4. Truly a gift to those who waited.

Therein lies the irony in all of this. Putting options aside for a second; instead of it being $10k more as many touted, it's akin to getting a smaller more nimble M4 for $10k less.

[Gatte]

This is not the M2 that the engineers wanted to build from the beginning.

That should come later.

[M3_WC]

The front brakes are 99.99% F10 steel brakes, the specs are spot on(6 piston 400mm). Earlier spy photos, the calipers look identical. Although the rear is something different, the rear rotors are now the size of old front rotors(380mm).

This thing is going to stop on a dime.