Crooked seats in the M2?!

Perp · 10-13-2017, 02:37 PM

Never looked at the seat, but I can "feel" I'm shifted a bit sitting. Doesn't bother me at all.

M3PGH · 10-13-2017, 02:38 PM

i had my car for one month
it is one of these things that you will not notice if you did not hear about it
but once a week I am driving and say to myself is the seat positioned right or not ?
but overall , it is a no issue. The car is great

Mosely · 10-13-2017, 02:41 PM

Yes the LCI does have the same seat. Never notice it at all.

alekzzz · 10-13-2017, 03:01 PM

i sat in 240i, before watching a video about m2 seat being slightly off, found it alright, everything was fine, then after watching a video about m2 seats, decided to check my e90 m3 seat position and noticed it also was slightly pointing to a left headlight... so my point is, you will be fine, just get over it.

gmzanatta · 10-13-2017, 03:15 PM

Ahh this again haha. It's literally like 5 degrees offset, so unless your body comes built in with a biological protractor, you will never notice. I echo what everyone said above - don't worry about it, it'll be fine.

Aloha Joe · 10-13-2017, 03:31 PM

I hear the Canadian version is angled the other way

No worries, you'll never notice it when driving!

JustChris · 10-13-2017, 03:34 PM

M2Nebula · 10-13-2017, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha Joe

I hear the Canadian version is angled the other way

No worries, you'll never notice it when driving!

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alscks0414 · 10-16-2017, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pruettfan

It's about time for everyone to get over the crooked seat thing. I have actually had a guy come up to me at Cars and Coffee and tell me my car was crap because of the seat. BMW is not going to change this as there are weird side safety factors that led to this anomaly. I can say after driving mine for a year and 19,000 miles I haven't been negatively effected by this issue. My guess is if it wasn't brought to your attention most wouldn't figure it out. Having said that, sit in a beloved air cooled Porsche 911 or any one of many cars that folks lust over and you will find weird ergonomic issues. Overall the M2 has outstanding ergonomics, I did a 400 mile day a few weeks ago and despite my fused back I was very comfortable.

The M2 is a great car this issue should not distract from how great it is. Interestingly nobody every brought this up on the other 2 series models.

I do not know if M2 is the only in 2-series based that has this seat problem. I once did have test drove (using my friend's) and did indeed notice the seating position is weird. I should say that it is weird how I lined up with 3 peddals compared to "normal" once that I drove before...

My friend had no idea and thought i am the weird one who feels the way difference when everyone else has no issue with the seat. And then I came home and search online and found that it is actually crooked...

But I really love the car and the fact that the crooked seat did not bother me one second to release the order, but just curisou if they fixed it in LCI..

alscks0414 · 10-16-2017, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gmzanatta

Ahh this again haha. It's literally like 5 degrees offset, so unless your body comes built in with a biological protractor, you will never notice. I echo what everyone said above - don't worry about it, it'll be fine.

Problem is that i did notice haha...

horsepower_and_hounds · 10-16-2017, 11:07 AM

Thought it was by design and served a purpose....... for peeps to flood the forum about it

All seriousness there is a reason

akkando · 10-16-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by alscks0414

I do not know if M2 is the only in 2-series based that has this seat problem. I once did have test drove (using my friend's) and did indeed notice the seating position is weird. I should say that it is weird how I lined up with 3 peddals compared to "normal" once that I drove before...

My friend had no idea and thought i am the weird one who feels the way difference when everyone else has no issue with the seat. And then I came home and search online and found that it is actually crooked...

But I really love the car and the fact that the crooked seat did not bother me one second to release the order, but just curisou if they fixed it in LCI..

No I believe it's crash safety related and they are not going to rework the geometry of the car and re-crash test it for the seat.

alscks0414 · 10-16-2017, 01:22 PM

I was told that it is because of DCT size and safety regulation.
Since M2 is based on 2 series chasis, bigger sized DCT did actually made the seat to moved to the left (considering that your driver seat is on the left size).
However, they also have to consider the distance from the door panel to the driver's seat and due to the safety test issues and BMW ended up pushing the front portion of the seat to be tilted to right (passenger) side... Making the seat position crooked by slight degrees.

dasblack · 10-16-2017, 01:56 PM

Knew about it and never noticed after owning for over 1 year

AndrewC1989 · 10-16-2017, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alscks0414

Knowing that M2s before MY18 had crooked driver seat, wondering if that has been fixed for LCIs...

Does anybody know??

Lol you don't even have the car and you're already worried about some dumb little thing like that?

You can't even notice it. I've had my car almost a year now and I wouldn't have any idea the seat was a few degrees off had I not seen it mentioned on the forum a billion times. It's just a part of the F87 chassis and will remain that way because of the money and time it would take to redesign it. They're not gonna change it. End of story.

McPurrs · 10-16-2017, 02:20 PM

Maybe I am the only one who wishes it was crooked just a little more. It is a non issue. You can't even see it.

geogerf · 10-16-2017, 02:44 PM

It never occurs to me that the seat is crooked once I get in the car. Just like the dim gauges on pre-LCI.

mrcheezle19 · 10-16-2017, 03:58 PM

It's literally impossible to notice.

Signed,

A current M2 owner.

gmzanatta · 10-16-2017, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ehagerty

Thought it was by design and served a purpose....... for peeps to flood the forum about it

All seriousness there is a reason

There is indeed. It?s in order for the car to pass the small front overlap test instead of crushing your legs

Ian ///M · 10-16-2017, 07:21 PM

Ditto. If you notice.. the seat isn’t the problem

horsepower_and_hounds · 10-16-2017, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian ///M

Ditto. If you notice.. the seat isn’t the problem

Word.....

Kid Eh · 10-16-2017, 10:30 PM

I've had the car for 3 months and have no clue what this crooked seat nonsense is all about. I don't notice a thing.

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Perp Private First Class 74 Rep 114 Posts Drives: '18 M2 MT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	Never looked at the seat, but I can "feel" I'm shifted a bit sitting. Doesn't bother me at all.
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M3PGH Major 807 Rep 1,401 Posts Drives: Too Many Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh,PA iTrader: (1)	i had my car for one month it is one of these things that you will not notice if you did not hear about it but once a week I am driving and say to myself is the seat positioned right or not ? but overall , it is a no issue. The car is great
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10-13-2017, 02:41 PM	#245
Mosely Lieutenant 594 Rep 450 Posts Drives: '18 M2 \| '20 X5 \| '07 E92 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Yes the LCI does have the same seat. Never notice it at all.
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10-13-2017, 03:01 PM	#246
alekzzz New Member 6 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 White Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Burnaby BC iTrader: (0)	i sat in 240i, before watching a video about m2 seat being slightly off, found it alright, everything was fine, then after watching a video about m2 seats, decided to check my e90 m3 seat position and noticed it also was slightly pointing to a left headlight... so my point is, you will be fine, just get over it.
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10-13-2017, 03:15 PM	#247
gmzanatta Colonel 1823 Rep 2,948 Posts Drives: LBB 6MT M2 # 660/713 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: NB iTrader: (0)	Ahh this again haha. It's literally like 5 degrees offset, so unless your body comes built in with a biological protractor, you will never notice. I echo what everyone said above - don't worry about it, it'll be fine.
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10-13-2017, 03:31 PM	#248
Aloha Joe Hanapaa! 393 Rep 449 Posts Drives: 17 M2 6mt, LBB Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Honolulu, HI iTrader: (0)	I hear the Canadian version is angled the other way No worries, you'll never notice it when driving!
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10-13-2017, 03:34 PM	#249
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10-16-2017, 11:07 AM	#253
horsepower_and_hounds Brigadier General 1836 Rep 4,203 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	Thought it was by design and served a purpose....... for peeps to flood the forum about it All seriousness there is a reason
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10-16-2017, 01:22 PM	#255
alscks0414 Major 690 Rep 1,339 Posts Drives: MY18 X3 M40i, MY18 M3 ZCP Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	I was told that it is because of DCT size and safety regulation. Since M2 is based on 2 series chasis, bigger sized DCT did actually made the seat to moved to the left (considering that your driver seat is on the left size). However, they also have to consider the distance from the door panel to the driver's seat and due to the safety test issues and BMW ended up pushing the front portion of the seat to be tilted to right (passenger) side... Making the seat position crooked by slight degrees.
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10-16-2017, 01:56 PM	#256
dasblack Second Lieutenant 79 Rep 200 Posts Drives: BMW M2 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Southwest FL iTrader: (0)	Knew about it and never noticed after owning for over 1 year
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10-16-2017, 02:20 PM	#258
McPurrs The deuce gets loose 290 Rep 499 Posts Drives: '17 M2 BSM 6MT Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Worcester, MA iTrader: (0)	Maybe I am the only one who wishes it was crooked just a little more. It is a non issue. You can't even see it.
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10-16-2017, 02:44 PM	#259
geogerf First Lieutenant 116 Rep 306 Posts Drives: MY17 LBB M2 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pasadena iTrader: (1) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	It never occurs to me that the seat is crooked once I get in the car. Just like the dim gauges on pre-LCI.
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mrcheezle19 Lieutenant 375 Rep 507 Posts Drives: 21 M2C 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: lake elsinore iTrader: (0)	It's literally impossible to notice. Signed, A current M2 owner. __________________ Present: 21 M2C 6MT/Ford something Past: M2 Mineral Grey 6MT Past: BMW e30 m52 turbo 628whp/558wtq
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10-16-2017, 07:21 PM	#262
Ian ///M Captain 491 Rep 656 Posts Drives: '17 AW M2 (DCT) Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	Ditto. If you notice.. the seat isn’t the problem
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