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      01-09-2017, 09:48 AM   #177
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Apparently my dealer already got the parts in so I drop my car off Tuesday morning. I'm getting the intake, turbo, intercooler, and tune. (already have MPE so I didn't want to spend any more than I already am)

We have a few warmer days (~45 F), but then we're forecasted for snow on Saturday and Sunday. I sure hope they finish before Saturday so I can drive home on dry pavement. I don't imagine 460 hp and RWD on MPSS does well in snow.
Sounds like you are in the Midwest
If you are in the Chicago area can you tell me where u are doing the install?
Dinan web site lists Fields as a Dinan dealer. There is another one listed as well I believe (Patrick?). Try one of those. If you do please post the details.
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That gets me worried. Sound like the re-sync of wastegate must be done by a Dinan dealer? What should I do apparently no dealer is available around?

In addition, a few questions on your new IC, I am surprised there isn't any reviews here that I can find of the similar m235i dual core IC released one year back or so.

With new IC for m2, there aren't much concrete info/details to support the claimed gains, other than the impressive 270% cooling surface thanks to dual core design. If you don't mind, some customers like us would like to know some details or basics:
1) Fin and tube or bar & plate?
2) Effective core volume compared to Stock?

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2. N55 stock = 410 in^3 (19.5 x 5.25 x 4)

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Dinan web site lists Fields as a Dinan dealer. There is another one listed as well I believe (Patrick?). Try one of those. If you do please post the details.
Fields is new but have been very gung-ho out of the gate. You also have Patrick, Laurel for dealerships and Fall Line Motorsports and Bavarian Auto Werke for independents.
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Local dealer is charging $1400 to have the turbo, intercooler, and tune installed only. That's $5600 for parts and labor.
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My local dinan dealer quoted me at $1355 for installation of everything in the P2 power package except for the exhaust (I already have the MPE and this is already expensive enough as-is lol). Figured the rest of you guys might want a rough idea of what it would cost to install. (and I'm sure it can vary greatly from one dealer to another)
Similar enough here in SoCal, as l aready have the MPE as well. Total all in (parts, labor, tax) was $6750. Pricing breakdown was $4870 for parts (per Dinan website for tune, turbo, intake, and intercooler) $1440 for labor (per Dinan website for 12hrs recommended) and $400-ish for CA tax.

My biggest debate now is:
1) spend the $6K now plus better tires to handle the power.
2) keep power the same, maybe do suspension/camber plates for track days
3) be happy with what I have for now, wait on comp pkg, trade my '16 M2 then add Dinan tune to the S55 (if it even needs it)

Unfortunately I have that mod bug that keeps going around...
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I pick the car up tomorrow. So excited. Unfortunately, today was in the 60's and would've been perfect for testing it out, but they said it's their first one so it's taking them longer than expected. What sucks is that tomorrow will be around 30 degrees out so I won't have the grip to really get a feel for it
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1) spend the $6K now plus better tires to handle the power.
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Got the car back. FMIC looks awesome through the front bumper. The intake looks good but I don't hear much of its noise over the MPE even with the valves closed. (Not necessarily a bad thing). As for performance, it's 25 degrees F outside so traction is limited but all I can say is that it feels like an ICBM on wheels. I don't perceive any more turbo lag either but I've barely had a chance to drive it so far. Will report back once I get some warmer days to play around with
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Got the car back. FMIC looks awesome through the front bumper. The intake looks good but I don't hear much of its noise over the MPE even with the valves closed. (Not necessarily a bad thing). As for performance, it's 25 degrees F outside so traction is limited but all I can say is that it feels like an ICBM on wheels. I don't perceive any more turbo lag either but I've barely had a chance to drive it so far. Will report back once I get some warmer days to play around with
Thank you for the update, I have been waiting to hear your impressions!!!

I think the down pipe mods will give you more turbo noise than an intake (unless it's that crazy e-venturi deal). But I'll bet you could hear the turbo better with the window down

Please let us know how the car is once you get some traction...which might not be until spring :9
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Got the car back. FMIC looks awesome through the front bumper. The intake looks good but I don't hear much of its noise over the MPE even with the valves closed. (Not necessarily a bad thing). As for performance, it's 25 degrees F outside so traction is limited but all I can say is that it feels like an ICBM on wheels. I don't perceive any more turbo lag either but I've barely had a chance to drive it so far. Will report back once I get some warmer days to play around with
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Car is filthy, so be nice lol. It's rough living in the rust belt.

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Car is filthy, so be nice lol. It's rough living in the rust belt.


That is not filthy. It's beautiful
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If I get a 200 or 300 cell catted downpipe, will I benefit at all? I assume the Dinan tune is a canned tune in a piggyback? Is there or will there ever be support for aftermarket downpipe?
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If I get a 200 or 300 cell catted downpipe, will I benefit at all? I assume the Dinan tune is a canned tune in a piggyback? Is there or will there ever be support for aftermarket downpipe?
Read this page: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...270926&page=11

Dinan won't support another vendor's catted DP, and it seems like most of them besides the fabspeed model are throwing CEL's. However, I believe that even with the Dinan setup, you should see some gains with a DP. If nothing else, faster spool with the big turbo.
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If I get a 200 or 300 cell catted downpipe, will I benefit at all? I assume the Dinan tune is a canned tune in a piggyback? Is there or will there ever be support for aftermarket downpipe?
Read this page: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...26&page=11

Dinan won't support another vendor's catted DP, and it seems like most of them besides the fabspeed model are throwing CEL's. However, I believe that even with the Dinan setup, you should see some gains with a DP. If nothing else, faster spool with the big turbo.
What is CEL???????
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What is CEL???????
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Thank! But Bruh! I've been having engine light for some time. Sometimes the I can see the CEL, sometimes not. I have the PP tune, full fi exhaust system, and the eventuri intake. I think it's the catless. Every time I want to scan the car the engine light when off :
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Here's a very short clip of me revving the car in the parking garage at work. You can hear the turbo through the intake. Sounds good! (I have MPE and ASD Bypass as well as the Dinan Stage 4)

The valves in the exhaust are closed in this video. (the sound would probably clip if I had it open--it's REAAAAAALLY loud inside of a parking garage with the valves open)

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Thank! But Bruh! I've been having engine light for some time. Sometimes the I can see the CEL, sometimes not. I have the PP tune, full fi exhaust system, and the eventuri intake. I think it's the catless. Every time I want to scan the car the engine light when off :
FI Exhaust has catless DP which explains your CEL.
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Here's a very short clip of me revving the car in the parking garage at work. You can hear the turbo through the intake. Sounds good! (I have MPE and ASD Bypass as well as the Dinan Stage 4)

The valves in the exhaust are closed in this video. (the sound would probably clip if I had it open--it's REAAAAAALLY loud inside of a parking garage with the valves open)

+1, damn this doesn't help convince me not to upgrade. How is the driveability? I know Dinan markets their upgrades to be daily livable.
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If I get a 200 or 300 cell catted downpipe, will I benefit at all? I assume the Dinan tune is a canned tune in a piggyback? Is there or will there ever be support for aftermarket downpipe?
You will yield more power. You are reducing the biggest roadblock in the system after all.

There will never be true support from Dinan on a downpipe. They are emissions illegal so supporting them (clearing CEL namely) would be subject to fines. The potential financial fallout is just not worth it to us. As I said though they will function fine, and yield some extra power but we will not tune specifically for them nor clear the associated CEL.
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+1, damn this doesn't help convince me not to upgrade. How is the driveability? I know Dinan markets their upgrades to be daily livable.
Feels pretty normal until you get on it. The difference is pretty big under full acceleration. I see lots more TC light in lower gears and a lot more break-neck pull in the upper gears. I'll try to get a video of a good pull this week if weather permits.
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You will yield more power. You are reducing the biggest roadblock in the system after all.

There will never be true support from Dinan on a downpipe. They are emissions illegal so supporting them (clearing CEL namely) would be subject to fines. The potential financial fallout is just not worth it to us. As I said though they will function fine, and yield some extra power but we will not tune specifically for them nor clear the associated CEL.
Assuming my dealership is cool with it (which they seem to be fairly mod-friendly), if I got one of those catted ones, does Dinan void my warranty or do you guys even care that I have one? I'm only considering it because everyone is saying they aren't getting CELs with the catted ones
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You will yield more power. You are reducing the biggest roadblock in the system after all.

There will never be true support from Dinan on a downpipe. They are emissions illegal so supporting them (clearing CEL namely) would be subject to fines. The potential financial fallout is just not worth it to us. As I said though they will function fine, and yield some extra power but we will not tune specifically for them nor clear the associated CEL.
Assuming my dealership is cool with it (which they seem to be fairly mod-friendly), if I got one of those catted ones, does Dinan void my warranty or do you guys even care that I have one? I'm only considering it because everyone is saying they aren't getting CELs with the catted ones
Just go catless and get CEL delete wires from VSFR or the odb2 tool from armytrix. You'll be spending 1/2 the money and see twice the hp then if you were to get a "sport cat" for $1500 that will eventually throw you a CEL anyway
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