BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW M2 Forum > M2 vs... > Not a Fastest in Straight Line

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-15-2019, 12:57 PM   #67
termigni
Lieutenant Colonel
termigni's Avatar
United_States
1004
Rep
1,714
Posts

Drives: S2000, F16 X6, F87 M2, Model3
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2018 BMW M2  [0.00]
I own both M2 and Model 3 and I got one word for you all: EV is the future.
__________________
2018 ///M2 LCI, Atlantis Blue, 6MT, Exec Pkg, Apple

Instagram: AtlantisM2
Appreciate 0
      07-15-2019, 03:12 PM   #68
5.M0NSTER
First Lieutenant
5.M0NSTER's Avatar
United_States
280
Rep
325
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW M2 6MT Drivers Pack
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Little north of Stuttgart, Germany

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by termigni View Post
I own both M2 and Model 3 and I got one word for you all: EV is the future.
It is. Some time from now.

Right now it's the right choice if you're stuck in traffic a lot. Until it's the right choice for the race track, it's the wrong choice for me. Peace.
__________________
2017 BMW M2 German Spec
6MT, Driver's Package

"Redline a day keeps the mechanics away"
Appreciate 0
      07-15-2019, 03:54 PM   #69
bmwm2nyc
Enlisted Member
168
Rep
41
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: nyc

iTrader: (0)

Great thread title. Really lets the reader know what to expect.
Appreciate 1
andrewc895899.00

      07-15-2019, 09:18 PM   #70
KeepItlow
Enlisted Member
KeepItlow's Avatar
Australia
35
Rep
35
Posts

Drives: GT4 981, CTR FK8, MCS F60
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia

iTrader: (0)

Life's too boring to be fast in a straight line ONLY!
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2019, 03:08 PM   #71
Moflow
Private
108
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: 350Z
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by termigni View Post
I own both M2 and Model 3 and I got one word for you all: EV is the future.
Well then, let me respond with just one word:

I'm not entirely sure I actually enjoy electric cars more than much slower gasoline engined cars, for me a large part of the enjoyment that comes from driving is necessarily derived from straight line speed. If i had to really analyze my enjoyment i'd say it basically comes down to a sense of control over the vehicle. I've never felt that comfortable with the way that electric cars deliver their power, now this could just be from a lifetime of dealing with more traditional power bands, but electric cars just give you too much too soon. I tend to think of Teslas as being incredible muscle cars, which, admittedly makes them cool in their own right, and don't get me wrong i'd 100 percent own a Tesla, i just don't think of it as a "sports car" its not going to scratch that particular itch. I suppose there is nothing fundamental about electric cars i object to though. I've never been in a Tesla roadster, but assuming the driving dynamics were good, i'd probably be totally okay with something like that, though i'd really miss shifting gears. Honestly, gears are kind of a thing in and of themself. I just love the feeling of shifting, like, you're going through acceleration in stages, every shift is a new opportunity to take a split second break before the fun starts again. And of course there's the sound, i've yet to hear anything electric that sounds cool. Granted, some gas engines sound like shit (I drive a 350Z this is a phenomenon I am familiar with) so I can't really just universally give a pass to gasoline engines. Anyway, i think i've made my point which, contrary to what you've just read has nothing to do with the relative merits of gasoline vs. electric propulsion in the automobile, it was actually that you claimed to only be leaving us with one word, when in fact you were giving us four.
Appreciate 0
      07-17-2019, 03:09 PM   #72
medphysdave
Lieutenant
United_States
285
Rep
436
Posts

Drives: M2 CS waiting list
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Charlotte, NC

iTrader: (0)

I'm interested in this topic, so I appreciate the thorough reviews. Another interesting piece is that the model 3p is now $56k before incentives without autopilot. That's significant performance for the money. I still think I'm leaning on M2CS, but I think the amount in willing to pay is becoming less.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2019, 12:54 AM   #73
evanescent03
Lieutenant Colonel
evanescent03's Avatar
617
Rep
1,600
Posts

Drives: '16 M6 GC CP
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyD^2 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonM235xi View Post
Tesla 3 is ugly inside and out BUT for the money it's probably the best all around car you can buy.
Is it? It's the first car I have ever priced out that almost doubles in price the moment you select the performance version. Starts at $43k CDN and as soon as I click on the performance version its $75k and if you actually want the autonomous features it goes up to $93k. You can buy a lot of great all around cars for that price that don't have the build quality of a Dodge Dart.
Sorry ... when you can buy a BMW 3 series for like $35k and the performance (M3) is double that... this argument goes out the window. Return on investment is very poor for the "performance" models ... 911 starts at $90k.... Turbo starts at $160k... yikes.
__________________
Previous cars worth mentioning they were all great: '09 STi // '08 335i // '02 M3 // '11 335i // '15 M3 // '16 M3 // '16 Camaro SS // '16 Audi S3 // '18 Boxster 718S // '17 Camaro SS 1LE

Appreciate 0
      08-13-2019, 02:18 AM   #74
Fuller
Captain
675
Rep
888
Posts

Drives: F36 435i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER View Post
Is it just me or is the Tesla just plain ugly? I'm sorry, that front end is hideous!
So is the back end, side view, 45 degree front driver's side etc. There doesn't appear to be any nice angles from which to view it. I'd say it's up there with the Prius and Pontiac Aztec for exterior design notoriety.
Appreciate 0
      08-13-2019, 02:29 AM   #75
Fuller
Captain
675
Rep
888
Posts

Drives: F36 435i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by evanescent03 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyD^2 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonM235xi View Post
Tesla 3 is ugly inside and out BUT for the money it's probably the best all around car you can buy.
Is it? It's the first car I have ever priced out that almost doubles in price the moment you select the performance version. Starts at $43k CDN and as soon as I click on the performance version its $75k and if you actually want the autonomous features it goes up to $93k. You can buy a lot of great all around cars for that price that don't have the build quality of a Dodge Dart.
Sorry ... when you can buy a BMW 3 series for like $35k and the performance (M3) is double that... this argument goes out the window. Return on investment is very poor for the "performance" models ... 911 starts at $90k.... Turbo starts at $160k... yikes.
Yes, but this site is called "bimmerpost" not teslapost. Hint: we like Bimmers and German cars here, so be prepared to see that bias manifest on occasion.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2019, 09:01 AM   #76
gmazet
Captain
gmazet's Avatar
273
Rep
810
Posts

Drives: Broken 2020 M2C
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Hunterdon County, NJ, USA

iTrader: (0)

I'll get an EV when I can fully recharge it in 5 min or less like I can with my BMW at any of tens of thousands of recharge stations (gas stations) and they have a good looking one(teslas are all ugly) in coupe form that handles like a BMW for a better price than a BMW. so likely never
__________________
Gary
Current: 2020 F87 LBB|Exec|DCT|slicktop
Other: 2017 F15 35i,|MPPK, 2012 F25 28i
Past: 2008 E92tt 6MT, 2001 E46 6MT 2009 Z06 1997 Camaro SS 6MT
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2019, 12:04 PM   #77
dvas
Lieutenant
dvas's Avatar
270
Rep
409
Posts

Drives: 2017 M2 - Mineral Gray, 6spd
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Chris Harris said it best, Tesla is a one-trick pony. Incredible in a straight line up to a certain point. But I've yet to see one at a track day and am confident it can't complete a full 20 minute session at pace.

Teslas seem to be built for, and most appreciated by, tech and gadget geeks and environmental crusaders, not for car driving enthusiasts.

Musk is a coding nerd that is a great salesman and cult orchestrator, obtaining tons of other people's money to develop Tesla. He is certainly not a driving enthusiast as his goal seems to be to commoditize driving.

Having said that, wonder what Tesla could have done with the resources and technology they do have, if they didn't focus on gadgets like pop-out door handles, in-car games, auto-pilot, gull-wing doors, etc.
Appreciate 0
      08-14-2019, 08:24 PM   #78
Thescout13
Brigadier General
Thescout13's Avatar
United_States
2379
Rep
3,622
Posts

Drives: '18 F80 M3, '20 F87 M2C
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dvas View Post
Chris Harris said it best, Tesla is a one-trick pony. Incredible in a straight line up to a certain point. But I've yet to see one at a track day and am confident it can't complete a full 20 minute session at pace.

Teslas seem to be built for, and most appreciated by, tech and gadget geeks and environmental crusaders, not for car driving enthusiasts.

Musk is a coding nerd that is a great salesman and cult orchestrator, obtaining tons of other people's money to develop Tesla. He is certainly not a driving enthusiast as his goal seems to be to commoditize driving.

Having said that, wonder what Tesla could have done with the resources and technology they do have, if they didn't focus on gadgets like pop-out door handles, in-car games, auto-pilot, gull-wing doors, etc.
I'll let nicknaz chime in on the trackability of the Tesla M3P.
__________________
Wife's Car: 2018 F80 M3, Yas Marina Blue, DCT, Black 19s, Carbon Structure Anthracite Cloth/Leather Combination, Driving Assistance Package (Euro Delivery Oct. 9, 2017)
Upcoming ED: 2020 F87 M2C, LBB, ZEC, 6MT
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:28 AM.




m2
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST