[Nine Lives]

Originally Posted by ryem3

Not sure that's the case. Watched a guy test a car and run out of water after a couple of laps. Not that it hurts the car,but you lose power of course.

Originally Posted by zenmaster

On average, it only has to be refilled every 3,000 kilometers or 1864 miles!

According to the Bosch numbers, it'd be like 6 times a year, or every 8 fillups for me.

However, BMW says it depends on driving style: every fill up when racing or every 5 if driving "fast".

http://www.m-power.com/_open/s/varli...d=3301&lang=en

"In rigorous action out on the racetrack, it is always necessary to refill the water supply whenever the car must refuel. During standard operation, the intervals between water refills are considerably longer, depending on the driving style. Even when driving faster on the motorway, it is only necessary to refill the water container roughly every five stops for refuelling. To ensure the system is as suitable as possible for daily use, it does not require any additional maintenance."

Again, hardly a concern!

I can just see it now on 2 Addicts:

Question:

" Can anybody tell me which is best,Tap water or Mineral ?"

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

I can just see it now on 2 Addicts:

Question:

" Can anybody tell me which is best,Tap water or Mineral ?"

Funny but I bet they'd ask if you could get away with not using distilled water.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Nine Lives

I can just see it now on 2 Addicts:
Question:
"Can anybody tell me which is best, Tap water or Mineral ?"

Or: "I ran out of water for the 'Water Injection' of my M2 CSL during my latest mountain trip. Unfortunately got stuck in the middle of nowhere with less oomph than normal and my GF only had brought a big bottle of Coca Cola Zero. We shook the bottle hard enough to get rid of as much gas as possible and then used it (was a pain to unload all our camping stuff from the boot to get access to the refiller). My engine now sounds a little strange. Was it a bad idea ?"

[MMMBRAP]

I'm going to bring this thread back on topic, because holy shit, WTF happened. We went from talking about OLEDs and other nice updates for the M2 LCI and spiraled somehow to the stupidity that is the open deck/closed deck beating-a-dead-horse-with-a-stick topic to water injection, and whether we should use Evian or tap water.

Anyways.

I'm in the M2 FB Group, and I find it utterly amusing that many people on there are absolutely convinced 2017 is the end of M2 production, and there are no M2 LCI's planned.

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by MMMBRAP

I'm going to bring this thread back on topic, because holy shit, WTF happened. We went from talking about OLEDs and other nice updates for the M2 LCI and spiraled somehow to the stupidity that is the open deck/closed deck beating-a-dead-horse-with-a-stick topic to water injection, and whether we should use Evian or tap water.

Anyways.

I'm in the M2 FB Group, and I find it utterly amusing that many people on there are absolutely convinced 2017 is the end of M2 production, and there are no M2 LCI's planned.

http://www.bmwarchiv.de/e-code/f87.html

[MMMBRAP]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

http://www.bmwarchiv.de/e-code/f87.html

Thanks for sharing, zenmaster!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MMMBRAP

I'm in the M2 FB Group, and I find it utterly amusing that many people on there are absolutely convinced 2017 is the end of M2 production, and there are no M2 LCI's planned.

FWIW, see this earlier post.

[MMMBRAP]

Originally Posted by Artemis

FWIW, see this earlier post.

Always appreciated, Artemis!

[zenmaster]

Originally Posted by MMMBRAP

Thanks for sharing, zenmaster!

AFAIK, bmwarchiv.de, is the ONLY source provided so far for the M2 production years. Everyone else mentioning 2020 for last production year seems to be quoting them. It is entirely possible that BMW will NOT produce the M2 until 2020. However, bmwarchiv.de has been very accurate historically.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

AFAIK, bmwarchiv.de, is the ONLY source provided so far for the M2 production years. Everyone else mentioning 2020 for last production year seems to be quoting them. It is entirely possible that BMW will NOT produce the M2 until 2020. However, bmwarchiv.de has been very accurate historically.

Ynguldyn,has given very accurate info on BMW models but he doesn't list EOP in this thread regarding the F87 M2.

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686e

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Ynguldyn,has given very accurate info on BMW models but he doesn't list EOP in this thread regarding the F87 M2.
http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686e

Yup, but I reported from time to time about his earlier posted info, so let's reconstruct.

It seems that, so far, all of his provided 2er and M2 info turned out to be pretty accurate. Now the interesting part is that, back in 2014, he retrieved inside the fuzzy ///Matrix both the F87 M2 start of production date (SOP = November 2015) and F87 M2 end of production date (EOP = October 2018) + he also correctly pointed out already back then that the M2 and X4 M40i would share the same engine.

Early 2015, I noticed (and also reported here) that he had removed the M2 EOP date (October 2018).

This raises the question why BMW - at least initially - scheduled the M2 EOP by October 2018. My guess is that the info simply referred to the EOP date of the pre-LCI M2 (thus the one produced before the 2er LCI and M2 LCI is released - indeed, those are scheduled for release in MY2018, thus sometime in the second semester of 2017).

He also predicted the M2 LCI to happen in 2017 (MY2018) (including LED head and tail lights) and also retrieved traces of some M2 variant, but specified that that car won't be released prior to the M2 LCI.

As we speak, the very accurate bmwarchive.org still sticks to F87 M2 EOP date of 2020 (English + German). That info has never been modified. I trust that also that info remains accurate.

Check here for a little throwback:

• October 2014: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4#post16775274 and http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...0#post16828210
• March 2015: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...4#post17497964
• September 2015: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...&postcount=196
• January 2016: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...5#post19150635
• October 2016: http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...5#post20753375

[Imola3]

If they put the S55 in the M2 wouldn't there need to be a hood bulge or power dome like there is on the M3/4?

[zenmaster]

Aaaand we're back off topic!

[Ian ///M]

Originally Posted by MMMBRAP

I'm going to bring this thread back on topic, because holy shit, WTF happened. We went from talking about OLEDs and other nice updates for the M2 LCI and spiraled somehow to the stupidity that is the open deck/closed deck beating-a-dead-horse-with-a-stick topic to water injection, and whether we should use Evian or tap water.

Anyways.

I'm in the M2 FB Group, and I find it utterly amusing that many people on there are absolutely convinced 2017 is the end of M2 production, and there are no M2 LCI's planned.

FB and utterly amusing (and stupid) go hand in hand. lol

[ClothSeats]

Originally Posted by Imola3

If they put the S55 in the M2 wouldn't there need to be a hood bulge or power dome like there is on the M3/4?

The hood profile of the 2 series is higher than the 3 and 4.

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

The hood profile of the 2 series is higher than the 3 and 4.

When you look at the side profile shot, how can these cars be the same weight! Our car is a porker. Has anyone actually weighed the m2 on a weigh bridge?

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by ClothSeats

The hood profile of the 2 series is higher than the 3 and 4.

Also, the m2 sits higher up on its suspension..

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by kiysersosae

Also, the m2 sits higher up on its suspension..

Ground clearance difference is merely 3mm or 0.12in:

• BMW M2 = 123mm or 4.84in (source: here)
• BMW 1M/M3/M4 = 120mm or 4.72in (sources: here, here and here)

[kiysersosae]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Ground clearance difference is merely 3mm or 0.12in:

• BMW M2 = 123mm or 4.84in (source: here)
• BMW 1M/M3/M4 = 120mm or 4.72in (sources: here, here and here)

Point taken, but its still higher

Do you know What the frontal ares is between these pair and the M140i?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by kiysersosae

Point taken, but its still higher
Do you know What the frontal ares is between these pair and the M140i?

Ground clearance:

• BMW M140i/M240i = 130mm or 5.12in (sources: here and here)
• BMW M2 = 123mm or 4.84in (source: here)
• BMW 1M/M3/M4 = 120mm or 4.72in (sources: here, here and here)

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by bim2er

While certainly possible, maintaining the water is a concern so water injection is something I would expect to see in a GTS or CSL and not a Competition Package/ClubSport model.

Yeah.. water is tough to come by ..

Also the meth system shuts off when the water is low.

Perhaps more research is needed by you on this feature.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by zenmaster

On average, it only has to be refilled every 3,000 kilometers or 1864 miles!

According to the Bosch numbers, it'd be like 6 times a year, or every 8 fillups for me.

However, BMW says it depends on driving style: every fill up when racing or every 5 if driving "fast".

http://www.m-power.com/_open/s/varli...d=3301&lang=en

"In rigorous action out on the racetrack, it is always necessary to refill the water supply whenever the car must refuel. During standard operation, the intervals between water refills are considerably longer, depending on the driving style. Even when driving faster on the motorway, it is only necessary to refill the water container roughly every five stops for refuelling. To ensure the system is as suitable as possible for daily use, it does not require any additional maintenance."

Again, hardly a concern!