[tn508s]

What's the difference between my m235i and the f87 m2?

[m2ss]

The relentless grin on your face when driving the F87...

[CTSean]

some basic differences
M2 is built on F8x chassis
M2 has all the M3/M4 aluminum suspension bits
M2 has electronic LSD
M2 has a little more HP
M2 auto is a DCT
there's more I'm sure. I'm also sure there's lists of differences on the internet

M235i had way more options if you wanted more than couple exterior colors and 1 interior of the M2. 235 is also obviously going to be cheaper

[ThreeStripes]

The answers are contained in this technical brief from BMW.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/goodiesfo...l-training.pdf

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by tn508s

What's the difference between my m235i and the f87 m2?

https://www.bmwblog.com/2016/04/11/t...w-m2-vs-m235i/

[jkoral]

I realize OP has an F22 M235i, but truthfully I find the G42 M240 vs F87 M2 a more interesting comparison.

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880701 (throttle house video with discussion)

When I was in the market, if the G42 M240 was available, I might have chosen it over my OG M2 as a better daily.

[tn508s]

Originally Posted by jkoral

I realize OP has an F22 M235i, but truthfully I find the G42 M240 vs F87 M2 a more interesting comparison.

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880701 (throttle house video with discussion)

When I was in the market, if the G42 M240 was available, I might have chosen it over my OG M2 as a better daily.

Hey I'm just trying to get some discussion going. I wanted to get the 240 as well after I had bought the 235 as my first car (truck country out here) and started to do some research. It's very interesting.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by jkoral

I realize OP has an F22 M235i, but truthfully I find the G42 M240 vs F87 M2 a more interesting comparison.

https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1880701 (throttle house video with discussion)

When I was in the market, if the G42 M240 was available, I might have chosen it over my OG M2 as a better daily.

I still cant get over the ugly style of the G42.

[veenut28]

233i

[jkoral]

Originally Posted by DanG

I still cant get over the ugly style of the G42.

I prefer the G42 over the G87.

[ggggbmw]

I recently moved from an M235 to an OG 2017 M2 manual.

The main reason I switched is that I track my car, and I was in morbid fear of oil starvation and spun bearings on the M235 N55 engine. The M2 has the S55 oil scavenging system, so that fear is gone. Also, the M2 suspension and brakes are more track focused. The suspension is beefier, with cast aluminum pieces where the M235 is stamped steel, and it has standard -1.5 degree camber where the M235 is 0 degrees. Same calipers and pads, but the M2 has much larger discs.

The massive (and very sexy) fender flares also mean way wider wheels and tires are possible. 10" wheels are easy in the M2, and nearly impossible in the M235. That directly translates to better cornering and braking on track.

So, if you are tracking, the choice is easy and clear.

For daily use, it's a way harder decision. The M235 is hands down the better daily driver. Better street suspension, quieter, and the ZF8 auto is peerlessly smooth and quick. Yes, the hooligan nature of the M2 can be fun, but it's a more tiring car to drive as a daily.

The interior is essentially identical between the two cars. My M2 is a bit newer and better equipped than my M235 was, so those tech features are nice. But otherwise it is oddly the same. Oh, and most M2's are slick top, and that is great for more helmet room, which I desperately need.

If I wasn't tracking my daily (and only) car, I would have stuck with the M235. And frankly, the M235 is no slouch on the track either. It's just not the track focused car the M2 is.

[tn508s]

Originally Posted by ggggbmw

I recently moved from an M235 to an OG 2017 M2 manual.

The main reason I switched is that I track my car, and I was in morbid fear of oil starvation and spun bearings on the M235 N55 engine. The M2 has the S55 oil scavenging system, so that fear is gone. Also, the M2 suspension and brakes are more track focused. The suspension is beefier, with cast aluminum pieces where the M235 is stamped steel, and it has standard -1.5 degree camber where the M235 is 0 degrees. Same calipers and pads, but the M2 has much larger discs.

The massive (and very sexy) fender flares also mean way wider wheels and tires are possible. 10" wheels are easy in the M2, and nearly impossible in the M235. That directly translates to better cornering and braking on track.

So, if you are tracking, the choice is easy and clear.

For daily use, it's a way harder decision. The M235 is hands down the better daily driver. Better street suspension, quieter, and the ZF8 auto is peerlessly smooth and quick. Yes, the hooligan nature of the M2 can be fun, but it's a more tiring car to drive as a daily.

The interior is essentially identical between the two cars. My M2 is a bit newer and better equipped than my M235 was, so those tech features are nice. But otherwise it is oddly the same. Oh, and most M2's are slick top, and that is great for more helmet room, which I desperately need.

If I wasn't tracking my daily (and only) car, I would have stuck with the M235. And frankly, the M235 is no slouch on the track either. It's just not the track focused car the M2 is.

Great review!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by ggggbmw

I recently moved from an M235 to an OG 2017 M2 manual.

The main reason I switched is that I track my car, and I was in morbid fear of oil starvation and spun bearings on the M235 N55 engine. The M2 has the S55 oil scavenging system, so that fear is gone. Also, the M2 suspension and brakes are more track focused. The suspension is beefier, with cast aluminum pieces where the M235 is stamped steel, and it has standard -1.5 degree camber where the M235 is 0 degrees. Same calipers and pads, but the M2 has much larger discs.

The massive (and very sexy) fender flares also mean way wider wheels and tires are possible. 10" wheels are easy in the M2, and nearly impossible in the M235. That directly translates to better cornering and braking on track.

So, if you are tracking, the choice is easy and clear.

For daily use, it's a way harder decision. The M235 is hands down the better daily driver. Better street suspension, quieter, and the ZF8 auto is peerlessly smooth and quick. Yes, the hooligan nature of the M2 can be fun, but it's a more tiring car to drive as a daily.

The interior is essentially identical between the two cars. My M2 is a bit newer and better equipped than my M235 was, so those tech features are nice. But otherwise it is oddly the same. Oh, and most M2's are slick top, and that is great for more helmet room, which I desperately need.

If I wasn't tracking my daily (and only) car, I would have stuck with the M235. And frankly, the M235 is no slouch on the track either. It's just not the track focused car the M2 is.

I agree with everything you wrote. The main thing about the M235i that I couldn't get over was the suspension. It has way too much body roll. The only way to get rid of it is with coilovers. The fender wells leave little room for bigger wheels and tires which the powerfull N55 desperately needs. Otherwise the back tires spin out a lot. That being said my M235i was a freeway road warrior with the quick 8AT.

[qnet]

ggggbmw really nailed it. I had a M235i and now the M2 (with a Focus RS in between). The M235i was a lot more comfortable to daily drive. I didn't realize how much more comfortable until I got the M2 with the DCT. I did a track weekend in the M235i and it was very fun. I agree that the car is no slouch. The M2 is probably overkill for me, I just love the way it looks and drives.