[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by M2C_OZ

305/35/18 rear for more grip 😁😁

gangsta

[M2C_OZ]

Originally Posted by SpecialEdition_F87

Damn that’s wet wet. I assume only way to fit a 305 is a 18 inch wheel huh? Did you camber the rear

@SpecialEdition_F87 yes 18" by 11. No camber needed

[CHRISCR.VIII]

Originally Posted by M2C_OZ

305/35/18 rear for more grip 😁😁

u lowered at all?

[M2C_OZ]

Originally Posted by CHRISCR.VIII

u lowered at all?

Half an inch

[CHRISCR.VIII]

Originally Posted by M2C_OZ

Half an inch

Wonder if i can pull this tire spec on a 19 rim, on stock height

[Kuervers]

Originally Posted by CHRISCR.VIII

Wonder if i can pull this tire spec on a 19 rim, on stock height

285/35r19 is what you want. 285-/30 would look ridiculous at stock height

[Karmic Man]

275/295 AD08R now on

They are big wide ass tyres

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

275/295 AD08R now on

They are big wide ass tyres

Yes they are.

[bngcruiser]

I have a question - don't the 265's have a different tread pattern than the 255's?

255's being engineered for front, and 265's being engineered for rear?

[bngcruiser]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

I just got off the phone with a very nice Michelin rep and the MP4S 285/30/19 will be released in the US market on 1 April 2020, with purchase availability in late April/early May. Believe it or not, it's NOT an April Fool's thing.

Timing is almost perfect as my Apex EC-7's (1/2" wider than OEM) are having supply chain issues and I won't see them until May.

Now, the question becomes "Which rear size to get"?

Here are the particulars:

Front: 19x9.5 ET28, MP4S 265/30/19

Rear: 19x10.5 ET 45. MP4S in either 285/30/19 or 295/30/19

Suspension: Slightly lowered on TCK coilovers.

So-- 285 or 295? I'm having issues with the DSC going bonkers when I hammer it due to a Carbahn flash and some other goodies. 295 has been the "approved" answer since there was no really good 285 choice. But now that Michelin's released it, that would keep the front/rear stagger the same as stock (i.e. 20 difference).

Thoughts?

TIA.

R.

Where can we purchase today? I am trying to track this down before they are sold out.

Also in Denver .. looking to grab the 255/285 combo.


EDIT: JUST REALIZED ITS NOT AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE UNTIL LATER. MISSED THAT DETAIL.

[flybigjet]

Well?

Frell.

Since today was "supposedly" the release date of the Michelin MP4S's in 285/30/19-- here's what I did today.

1. I called Tire Rack. They have NO information on it being released. If it is released, they said don't expect it for several months at least.

2. Then, I called Michelin directly (866-866-6605) and talked to "Natasha". She did some digging and said that they were being released in the US today. I asked where I could find them since Tire Rack was out of the picture at the moment, and she recommended talking to Discount tire. She said the tire product number was 14185 for the PS4S 285/30/19. She also said they were in production already and there were "a few available" in the US. And yes, I asked her if this was an April Fools day thing-- she swore it wasn't. As a reminder, I'd called Michelin about 4-6 weeks ago and got the same information.

3. I went to Discount Tire. It was a slow day, so the store manager did some digging for me. They do not show up in their computer at all, so he called Michelin through his dealer line. The end result? Michelin told him that there none in production with no plans to bring them to the US.

So..... um..... WTF, over?

I've gone as far as I can on this, and I've got two completely different answers. The Michelin Consumer Line says they're available, in production and for sale. The Michelin Dealer's Line says they AREN'T available, AREN'T in production and NOT for sale in the US.

If anyone can carry this farther to get a solid answer, I'd appreciate it. My EC-7's are still in China and won't be here until Mid-May at the earliest.

R.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by bngcruiser

I have a question - don't the 265's have a different tread pattern than the 255's?

255's being engineered for front, and 265's being engineered for rear?

That would be a new one on me, and I'm pretty tire-savvy.

[Rapture1]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Well?

Frell.

Since today was "supposedly" the release date of the Michelin MP4S's in 285/30/19-- here's what I did today.

1. I called Tire Rack. They have NO information on it being released. If it is released, they said don't expect it for several months at least.

2. Then, I called Michelin directly (866-866-6605) and talked to "Natasha". She did some digging and said that they were being released in the US today. I asked where I could find them since Tire Rack was out of the picture at the moment, and she recommended talking to Discount tire. She said the tire product number was 14185 for the PS4S 285/30/19. She also said they were in production already and there were "a few available" in the US. And yes, I asked her if this was an April Fools day thing-- she swore it wasn't. As a reminder, I'd called Michelin about 4-6 weeks ago and got the same information.

3. I went to Discount Tire. It was a slow day, so the store manager did some digging for me. They do not show up in their computer at all, so he called Michelin through his dealer line. The end result? Michelin told him that there none in production with no plans to bring them to the US.

So..... um..... WTF, over?

I've gone as far as I can on this, and I've got two completely different answers. The Michelin Consumer Line says they're available, in production and for sale. The Michelin Dealer's Line says they AREN'T available, AREN'T in production and NOT for sale in the US.

If anyone can carry this farther to get a solid answer, I'd appreciate it. My EC-7's are still in China and won't be here until Mid-May at the earliest.

R.

I also called TireRack and Michelin today about this and received some similar answers.

The tires do show up now on the U.S. Michelin website which is good.

I figure it will take a few days, to weeks to have the vendors update that they are available to order.

Michelin has a $120 rebate program that includes these tires that expires on 04/05. I talked to their rewards center people and explained the issue and they told me to start that rebate process now, and they would most likely "grandfather" the rebate knowing they can't be ordered yet.

Im hopeful they can be ordered in the next week or two.

Oh, and Michelin did say there are no tires yet here in the U.S.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Rapture1

Michelin has a $120 rebate program that includes these tires that expires on 04/05. I talked to their rewards center people and explained the issue and they told me to start that rebate process now, and they would most likely "grandfather" the rebate knowing they can't be ordered yet.

Link to the rebate program?

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Well?

Frell.

Since today was "supposedly" the release date of the Michelin MP4S's in 285/30/19-- here's what I did today.

1. I called Tire Rack. They have NO information on it being released. If it is released, they said don't expect it for several months at least.

2. Then, I called Michelin directly (866-866-6605) and talked to "Natasha". She did some digging and said that they were being released in the US today. I asked where I could find them since Tire Rack was out of the picture at the moment, and she recommended talking to Discount tire. She said the tire product number was 14185 for the PS4S 285/30/19. She also said they were in production already and there were "a few available" in the US. And yes, I asked her if this was an April Fools day thing-- she swore it wasn't. As a reminder, I'd called Michelin about 4-6 weeks ago and got the same information.

3. I went to Discount Tire. It was a slow day, so the store manager did some digging for me. They do not show up in their computer at all, so he called Michelin through his dealer line. The end result? Michelin told him that there none in production with no plans to bring them to the US.

So..... um..... WTF, over?

I've gone as far as I can on this, and I've got two completely different answers. The Michelin Consumer Line says they're available, in production and for sale. The Michelin Dealer's Line says they AREN'T available, AREN'T in production and NOT for sale in the US.

If anyone can carry this farther to get a solid answer, I'd appreciate it. My EC-7's are still in China and won't be here until Mid-May at the earliest.

R.

Just run 295 at the back and call it a day...why you running 285 when you have 10.5?

More lateral grip is better when coming out of a corner

My 295 AD08R has more longitudinal grip than the 285 S007A...size does matter even on the straight

[Rapture1]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Link to the rebate program?

https://www.tirerewardcenter.com/mic....aspx?mobile=0

It's the Spring rewards. There is also a link on Tirerack.com

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Just run 295 at the back and call it a day...why you running 285 when you have 10.5?

More lateral grip is better when coming out of a corner

My 295 AD08R has more longitudinal grip than the 285 S007A...size does matter even on the straight

Matching side height with the 265/30/19 front. It's proportionally equivalent to stock tire sizes.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by flybigjet

Matching side height with the 265/30/19 front. It's proportionally equivalent to stock tire sizes.

Not when the rear starts wearing down

295 after 30% wear is at a 285 ride height, a 285 after 30% wear is at a 275 height

These ‘proportionally correct’ parameters are not static and will never be.

Many F platform M3/M4 guys are on the 265/295 setup and loving it

I am definitely loving the 295 more than the 285. More straight line traction and can power out of corners at the sane speed with less oversteer = faster

[WOT Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

275/295 AD08R now on

They are big wide ass tyres

I have the same wheels/size tires, just MPSS instead. I love the look and drive!

Stock suspension on 10mm spacers.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by WOT Bimmer

I have the same wheels/size tires, just MPSS instead. I love the look and drive!

Stock suspension on 10mm spacers.

SO nice

I found the 275/295 setup to be more aggressive and def faster than the 265/285

The herculean front end grip from the 275 front is borderline ridiculous

[243Racing]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

275/295 AD08R now on

They are big wide ass tyres

What are your front wheel specs?

[///MPhatic]

OK, this is getting a bit weird.

This guy ordered the Edelweiss LT5's shod with the 265/30 and 285/30 tires (he's in the UK, and the 285/30 wasn't available, so he ordered it from Germany), and the fitment looks a bit, well, weird.

He ordered 19 x 9 & 19 x 10, which makes the front 265 sidewall almost flat (as it should be on a 9" wheel), but the rear 285 sidewall looks a bit stretched...on 10". That seems very weird to me. 285 should have a flat sidewall on 10". He's taking more pix tomorrow, so hopefully I can figure out what's going on. It might be that the 285/30 has an incredibly large bead that the 265/30 doesn't have.

At any rate, I'm looking forward to solving this mystery.

And on a side note, I think the LT5 looks fantastic on the M2.