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      08-23-2017, 07:04 PM   #485
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      08-23-2017, 07:32 PM   #486
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My guess is that this car will cost more than a comp pack M4 and with markups could be pushed up to 80k... not sure its worth it at this point... especially if u consider how hard itnis to get a current M2.
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It is. I can vouch for the guy who posted it. Also, see PM.
Because M2 S55 is just a few months away, while the first S58 model will be out in 2019.
Whatever that guy PM'ed, can you PM me too.
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Not sure its worth $80k to me
Shitty sounding exhaust will make my decision EZ! But.... would have to put in the order before hearing the exhaust...
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wait...........does this mean that M2's will be readily available at dealers lots and or ordering allocations?
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80k, damn. Makes getting a base m2 a no brainer.
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$80k and I'd buy a used GT4
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$80k and I'd buy a used GT4
So... $80K brand new M2 CS and you would rather buy a $100K used GT4 knowing maintenance costs of owning a porsche ??

I know there are GT4s for around 95K but they are almost base stock cars.

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$80k and I'd buy a used GT4
80K M2 CS and you would buy a 100K used GT4 ??

I know there are GT4s for around 95K but they are almost base stock cars.
Saying " I'm gonna buy a Porsche " always sounds like a great plan til you get to the stealer. ...
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Saying " I'm gonna buy a Porsche " always sounds like a great plan til you get to the stealer. ...
Wouldn't go to the stealer
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Saying " I'm gonna buy a Porsche " always sounds like a great plan til you get to the stealer. ...
I know one dealership that does not steal. Number 6 for the next GT4.

This is if BMW does not offer a manual transmission on the M2 CS.
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There's no point they drop the base M2 offerings.
M2 CS to me is a different animal here and I doubt most people would go for CS rather than a base M2 consider the much higher price range it might be and which would be somewhat unreasonable to me in this segment.
Limited GTS? Maybe, they always sold them out.
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MAYBE dealerships will drop under msrp for M2 pricing once the CS is available.??
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MAYBE dealerships will drop under msrp for M2 pricing once the CS is available.??
Why would they do that? The kindness of their heart?
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MAYBE dealerships will drop under msrp for M2 pricing once the CS is available.??
Why would they do that? The kindness of their heart?
supply and demand my friend. If everyone is paying attention to the CS, or trading in their 16/17's...you never know. a few prople on here have bought for less than msrp. i have quotes of msrp in writing for both LCI and CS. not paying over!!
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How dramatic could be the cost increase of production if they offered more shades of leather other than black?
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Unless CS is a 50% more expensive car, the base m2 will take a huge hit in value and we owners get screwed big time.

I know n55, especially m2 version of it, sounds way better than any S55, but sound alone doesn't make up for the huge loss in power and everything else.
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Unless CS is a 50% more expensive car, the base m2 will take a huge hit in value and we owners get screwed big time.

I know n55, especially m2 version of it, sounds way better than any S55, but sound alone doesn't make up for the huge loss in power and everything else.
I don't know if it will take that big of a hit. Really comes down to how much more it will be than the base. I figure if it comes out to around 80k, I think the base M2 will still be popular car. All speculation
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Wouldn't go to the stealer
There are no $80k GT4's for sale private or dealer. 99% of them on AutoTrader are listed $100k+.

Where is your secret stash of used $80k GT4's?
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supply and demand my friend. If everyone is paying attention to the CS, or trading in their 16/17's...you never know. a few prople on here have bought for less than msrp. i have quotes of msrp in writing for both LCI and CS. not paying over!!
I think a number of people who got below MSRP are just using the USAA discount or whatever where the dealer still gets paid, they just get the difference from BMW, it wasn't a negotiation or a price reduction. Now some people have actually negotiated below MSRP but again I think most people saying they got 1500 off or whatever are just using some kind of incentive where the dealer doesn't take a hit on the price at all. Many many people when asked about their discounted price said they used a BMW incentive to get their lower price.

Now the most common reason for actually getting below MSRP where dealer takes the his is 17s stitting on the lot when 18s are weeks away or UK M2s. Supply and demand comes into play here for a limited time where buyers are willing to wait a weeks or a month for a face lifted 18 rather than take a 17 so demand dries up and dealers want to get rid of 17s on the lot. The UK lives in the magical land of 5 new m2s and 8 used m2s on the lot, I don't know what that's about, your guess is as good as mine.

As far as the CS I think it's just going to eat into regular M2 production, so it's not going to be increasing the amount of M2s BMW makes. Every CS is one less base M2. What about demand for the CS? Well a ton of people on this forum claim if it's not in manual, they rather drive a van than a DCT M2 CS, so there goes some demand. Also price is obviously going to be a factor. Some can't afford the CS but they can the base. Others who can afford the CS may decide they rather spend that money on a porsche if they are going to open their wallet that wide.

Also what happens if the CS is pretty limited in production? Everyone wants it, but not everyone can have it? Those who can't get it because they didn't ALREADY get on their dealers list are they going to just pass on the M2 altogether now and take their ball and go home? I think if all the CS cars that will be made are already spoken for by the early birds, then interest in the base m2 will remain strong.

I only see the base M2 sitting on lots if M2 base production remains the same ,but CS production is in significant quantity and an addition to the base production, AND the CS is priced within the budget of base M2 buyers. Seems unlikely. But hey if I am wrong then maybe I will be trading mine in for one.

If none of this made any sense, I wrote it at 2am so....
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There are no $80k GT4's for sale private or dealer. 99% of them on AutoTrader are listed $100k+.

Where is your secret stash of used $80k GT4's?
Right?? Cheapest one on Rennlist is like $96k and I doubt they'll drop much in value once the 718 GT4 is released down the road.
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Unless CS is a 50% more expensive car, the base m2 will take a huge hit in value and we owners get screwed big time.
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