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Well, yes, but.....
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02-06-2020, 12:12 PM | #1454 | |
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So we don't know whether '250' is the initial figure or whether it's the latest 'market adjustment' figure. Well, if accurate, then that's good news for our American friends.
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02-06-2020, 12:29 PM | #1455 | |
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So, in principle, BMW could peddle back about the production quantity and sell more than 2200 (demand seems higher in the US, than in Europe).
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02-06-2020, 03:04 PM | #1456 |
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I don't think they will make more than 2200 because I think it's a struggle to get rid of the current 2200. They may produce less. I'm getting one because I want one, but I completely agree/understand/respect everyone that is happy with the C.
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02-06-2020, 05:06 PM | #1461 | |
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I respect that . . . "I'm getting one because I want one." Enough said. Nobody can argue with that. Period. You will love it, I am sure. ///AVM |
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02-07-2020, 10:52 AM | #1462 | |
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Several M4 GTS buyers weren't quite amused when they found out that BMW had actually produced 803 cars, failing to keep its '700' promise (see here). And subsequently, BMW released the M4 DTM Champion Edition. "Limited edition" of 200 cars (see here). "The M4 DTM Champion Edition is basically the second coming of the M4 GTS, which wowed the automotive world last year with its awesome water injection technology. As you'd expect this car is rarer than the one it's based on, with just 200 units set for production; the M4 GTS had a production run of 700 cars. Another thing that sets the M4 DTM Champion Edition apart from the M4 GTS is its price: €148,550 ($163,376). The M4 GTS was sold for $134,200, with the markup for the new car likely owing to its collectible status. That's the only conclusion we could come to as the two M4s are basically the same." (here). BMW did not award a "Limited Edition" status to the M3 CS and M4 CS. No production figure in press materials. Same goes for the M2 CS. Actually, ain't it a little awkward to market a 4-digit production number as 'limited edition' for a car ? From the M4 GTS brochure (see here): "700" became 803.
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Yours and my 1M are 1 out of 6,309 produced. That also feels pretty limited at 3x the proposed volume of the M2CS. $0.02
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02-07-2020, 12:30 PM | #1464 |
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Sorry . . . but do people really buy a BMW 2-series because they think its a 'limited edition?!'
I really do not give two hoots if someone - such as Dave - simply state they 'want one.' Kudos! Go for it! I am all for it! Enjoy it! Drive the piss out of it! But this limited edition mentality - as though it is some form an auto investment - is just ridiculous. BMW should just price the M2CS out at $70K and sell 22,000 of them . . . ///AVM |
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I'm not buying because it's 'limited', I'm buying because it's the best iteration of the F87 M2, and because it can still be had with a manual transmission! My point is that for a large manufacturer 2,200 units can be called 'limited'. We aren't talking about a boutique niche manufacturer that makes 10,000 cars total for the year. Simply, 'limited' is relative to total volume.
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02-07-2020, 01:10 PM | #1466 | |
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YOU might not buy it because BMW puts a 'limited edition' tag on it, but they are banking on it. Otherwise why would - as you indicate - a mass producer of automobiles limit anything when the entire basis of existence is to make as much money as possible by selling as many as possible? Price the damn thing correctly and sell as many as possible. I am sorry to you and Dave, and do not want you take it personally, but there is nothing special about the M2CS to warrant the ever-growing price-tag under the BMW premise of being 'limited edition.' The M2C IS special. To state again, if you want one because you want one, that is awesome. No argument whatsoever on my end. I do not care how much you pay for it. Enjoy the heck out of it! ///AVM |
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Again I'm interested because the CS is the best version of the M2. The limited edition is an additional carrot with the "hope" the car doesn't depreciate as much. Need the car to be worth as much as possible for trade-in-value for the next car. |
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02-07-2020, 01:37 PM | #1468 |
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I'm just selfish at this point. If I'm going to over pay for a car id rather have the only one in town so I don't want 1000 to hit the US. If they would drop the price, then hey, sell them to anyone that will buy one.
BMW....Let me place my order already, this is getting ridiculous. What are we really waiting for? Start taking orders on the bare minimum volume to the US, and take more orders as you dump more into the market. |
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Happened to my rich friend. Got the first McLaren 600LT in NC, took it to C&C, and there was a white one there already. He literally sold it that next week. Whether that was his reason for selling, I don't know, but it was a funny coincidence. |
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I've also recognized that an exclusive 2 series is not a very tall pedestal in the grand scheme. Last edited by medphysdave; 02-07-2020 at 03:19 PM.. |
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2016 to now - probably 50K miles per year and have seen 5. Point being - the M2 at least imho is a very,very rare car. |
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BMW throws the 'limited edition' tag on something as to suggest it is 'special' . . . and, thus, garners a special price-tag. Pretty much this entire thread is about enthusiasts telling BMW they are wrong.
Consumers dictate what is 'special,' not the manufacturer. In fact, it seems manufacturers are all but clueless regarding what will be ultimately considered 'special' by consumers. Consumers have overwhelmingly decided the M2C is special. Dave, again, none of this is directed at you or Gimmean or Hegge. I support you and your enthusiasm. I am not going to sit here and say the M2CS is not going to be great, or that you will be anything other than thrilled with your purchase. I do, however, disagree that the M2CS will be the best version of the F87 M2 on the road. . . as long as the M2C is out on the road. ///AVM |
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I don’t understand all the negativity towards the M2CS.i am also buying one because I want one and that’s it. I don’t care about exclusivity. Also I don’t think you could build one for the price they are selling it at.
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