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      10-22-2018, 09:35 PM   #265
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That is lame...did they give reasoning?
Nope. Not sure they had any non-lame reason to give.
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Not in every instance.
Take the 1995 M3 LTW for example.
Go back to sleep, we're talking about Porsches
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The E30 went from a 2.3L to 2.5L I-4 mid-cycle
The E36 went from a 3.0L to 3.2L I-6 mid-cycle
And also the Z3M and E34 M5 had changes.
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Agree 100%! Definitely a hard sell. Your essentially approaching Porsche territory ��

But seriously, my local dealership has 3 M3CS's just sitting around for weeks now.
The M3/M4 CS's are just not worth the money. Funny, BMW is still charging $550 for Black on a car with this price...really? GTFO.
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Agree 100%! Definitely a hard sell. Your essentially approaching Porsche territory ��

But seriously, my local dealership has 3 M3CS's just sitting around for weeks now.
The M3/M4 CS's are just not worth the money. Funny, BMW is still charging $550 for Black on a car with this price...really? GTFO.
They could probably charge even more if they made a custom black edition CS in genuine solid 668 jet black...imagine that! Actually wait, it's probably a $5k indie color!
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All this talk about "it can't be near Porsche money" misses the point entirely. Everyone said the same thing in 2004, go check what a e46 CSL is with compared to a 996 C2

I think that these will all be presold before anything is officially announced. It's already reaching that point. I READ I

Not everyone buys a certain M car because they can't afford a bigger M car. Not everyone buys a M car because they can't afford a P car.
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Hello guys,

Been following this forum for sometime.

Im ready to make a deposit for a new toy , the m2 or the gt4.

After seeing some videos of the cs/csl i want one. Just hope the price is not near the new P gt4, because if it is that expensive iīm going for the P car.

Whatīs the price over the competition you guys think itīs going to have?

Sorry about my english.

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Hello guys,

Been following this forum for sometime.

Im ready to make a deposit for a new toy , the m2 or the gt4.

After seeing some videos of the cs/csl i want one. Just hope the price is not near the new P gt4, because if it is that expensive i´m going for the P car.

What´s the price over the competition you guys think it´s going to have?

Sorry about my english.

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Work on the M2CS being 50% more than the M2C

Work on the M2CSL being 100% more than the M2C

Work on the 718GT4 being 75% more than the M2C
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Ehhhh.....that wing is way too much for my tastes - I don't even like it on a GT3, much less the entry level M car.

Also, I don't equate big wing with aggressiveness....

The E46 CSL didn't have anything like that, so no reason to believe we would expect to see a huge eyesore on this car, be it a CS or CSL.

The wing is necessary for more downforce like the GT3 RS for track duties. Also the original CSL Batmobile had a big rear wing.

Maybe they could make a pared down version ā la GT3 RS Touring...

If you don't like the wing and more extreme aero, you can also choose the CS featured in the spy pics.

But for me the CSL needs to be a GT4 homologation special: an almost track car made for the road.

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The schedule is quite tight especially when you have the second generation 2er arriving afterwards , although the second generation M2 is still far,far away,
It makes more sense for CS

Its either the M4 or The M8 that will introduce the first modern CSL.
For the M8 maybe they can call it CSNL? N for nicht (not) of course... Acronyms don't mean anything nowadays...
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Leave it to Paul to show us amazing cars we will never see...
LOL, but it would not be that hard to develop an M2 CSL, which, image wise, could do wonders for the brand.

There was mention of an M4 CSL, ok, I get it but it should be M3.

But an M8 CSL??? M8 and lightweight don't go together except for the actual race car...
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Hello guys,

Been following this forum for sometime.

Im ready to make a deposit for a new toy , the m2 or the gt4.

After seeing some videos of the cs/csl i want one. Just hope the price is not near the new P gt4, because if it is that expensive i´m going for the P car.

What´s the price over the competition you guys think it´s going to have?

Sorry about my english.

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If your can get the GT4, get the GT4.
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Work on the M2CS being 50% more than the M2C

Work on the M2CSL being 100% more than the M2C

Work on the 718GT4 being 75% more than the M2C
Thanks for the info.

Iīm on the wait and see tribe...

Just sold my focus RS (after a second engine i had my share)

Donīt mind waiting a bit and get a nice car

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If your can get the GT4, get the GT4.
This.

The new GT4 will not disappoint, but the M2CS might. I’d only chose the M2CS between the two if I needed rear seats for practicality.
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Thanks for all the feedback.
I can put a deposit for the new gt4 or the cs.
Thinking about not only buying the car but the maintenance part of it.
Remember going to the porsche dealer with my parents car 911 and the normal bills were pretty high. Donīt know if the price with bmw are the same. Just want to get all checked before going with both feet first eheheh.

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Thanks for all the feedback.
I can put a deposit for the new gt4 or the cs.
Thinking about not only buying the car but the maintenance part of it.
Remember going to the porsche dealer with my parents car 911 and the normal bills were pretty high. Don´t know if the price with bmw are the same. Just want to get all checked before going with both feet first eheheh.

Thanks for you help.
might be the last naturally aspirated Cayman. If it's NA, I think it's the last one, if that's true it's going to be very special and hold its value better.
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Thanks for all the feedback.
I can put a deposit for the new gt4 or the cs.
Thinking about not only buying the car but the maintenance part of it.
Remember going to the porsche dealer with my parents car 911 and the normal bills were pretty high. Don´t know if the price with bmw are the same. Just want to get all checked before going with both feet first eheheh.

Thanks for you help.
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