[AudiOn19s]

Does this mean when my 2020 model shows up next month I won’t be able to flash it with BM3?

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by AudiOn19s

Does this mean when my 2020 model shows up next month I won’t be able to flash it with BM3?

Most likely... You'll just have to wait till BM3 finds a way around for the OBD unlock. However, if you really want BM3 and don't want to wait, you can still get a bench unlock/flash, which requires the DME to be physically removed.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Most likely... You'll just have to wait till BM3 finds a way around for the OBD unlock. However, if you really want BM3 and don't want to wait, you can still get a bench unlock/flash, which requires the DME to be physically removed.

I believe this still won't work until the DME is flashed back to the previous version.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

I believe this still won't work until the DME is flashed back to the previous version.

I think you are right. Looks like downgrade of the DME is still required for the bench flash.

[Project_F87]

cookiesowns What's the status on trying to crack this issue?

[MRosth]

Originally Posted by Project_F87

cookiesowns What's the status on trying to crack this issue?

Got this answer a few days ago from ProTuningFreaks/BM3

Thank you for reaching out to us, as well for your interest in bootmod3. BMW has added new security for the software March 2019+. It is giving all flash tuners a bit of trouble, but we are working on solving the issue. We will make an announcement to everyone when this has been resolved.

[CrazyK]

Originally Posted by MRosth

Got this answer a few days ago from ProTuningFreaks/BM3

Thank you for reaching out to us, as well for your interest in bootmod3. BMW has added new security for the software March 2019+. It is giving all flash tuners a bit of trouble, but we are working on solving the issue. We will make an announcement to everyone when this has been resolved.

Time estimate?

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by CrazyK

Time estimate?

Somehow I feel it won't be anytime soon...unless someone has access to Summit (fastest supercomputer in the world) to assist in breaking the encryption

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Somehow I feel it won't be anytime soon...unless someone has access to Summit (fastest supercomputer in the world) to assist in breaking the encryption

Attempting to break encryption is futile, usually exploits are a better way, 0day's. BMW can just re-key new DME's from factory, and actually all DME's have its own unique private key.

[cookiesowns]

Originally Posted by cntzl

OFT found a way to get around it and have the ability to do OBD unlock on the latest software as they posted in thread you shared. It's just a matter of time for BM3 to crack it as well. In the meantime, no one should get their software updated at the dealer.

??? don't see this anywhere

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

??? don't see this anywhere

I just checked the thread and a few posts seem to be gone/deleted (maybe because it was BM3 thread ). I should have quoted the OFT's original post and shared it here.

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by cookiesowns

Attempting to break encryption is futile, usually exploits are a better way, 0day's. BMW can just re-key new DME's from factory, and actually all DME's have its own unique private key.

May be...depending on the algorithm used I guess and they may not even know which algorithm at this stage. This expertise lies totally outside the domain of engine tuning so I would say some other resources would be required to crack the DME...long wait is my guess

[Arrow29]

Posted this in another thread then saw this one and thought may be a better place. Sorry for duplicate.

Does anybody know from what production date bmw will have this latest istep / dme update that has closed off flash tuning options?

My m2c left Antwerp on 27th Feb and build date was 8th Feb (according to vin check). So the software / DME stuff would have been done sometime within that time period.

Taking delivery in 3-4 weeks so I guess I won't know for sure until I get it and check

[CrazyK]

@proTUNING Freaks can you please comment on this issue?

[MRosth]

Originally Posted by Arrow29

Posted this in another thread then saw this one and thought may be a better place. Sorry for duplicate.

Does anybody know from what production date bmw will have this latest istep / dme update that has closed off flash tuning options?

My m2c left Antwerp on 27th Feb and build date was 8th Feb (according to vin check). So the software / DME stuff would have been done sometime within that time period.

Taking delivery in 3-4 weeks so I guess I won't know for sure until I get it and check

Think you will get the same problem as me when I pick my M2 soon, when they make it delivery ready and when they do the break-in service they will 100% update your car to the newest realease....

[Arrow29]

Originally Posted by MRosth

Think you will get the same problem as me when I pick my M2 soon, when they make it delivery ready and when they do the break-in service they will 100% update your car to the newest realease....

I'm in Australia and others have told me the dealers here don't routinely do updates unless requested. So there is a chance that if mine doesn't come with the latest software from the factory that I may be safe (although the dealer may update it, will have to wait and see).

That's why I'm curious as to if anybody knew when this update came into effect.

[Commanderwiggin]

Originally Posted by Arrow29

That's why I'm curious as to if anybody knew when this update came into effect.

I believe 01/19

[Arrow29]

Originally Posted by Commanderwiggin

I believe 01/19

Thank you, that's sad new for me if true

I had told myself to keep the car stock for 12 months so hopefully a workaround is discovered before then!

[epic]

Just wanted to add that I had my run-in service about 3 weeks ago and my software wasn't updated. Put the CS tune on it without issue.

[rjtoudouze]

Can I get my run in service in the USA without getting the software update?

[chmura]

Originally Posted by epic

Just wanted to add that I had my run-in service about 3 weeks ago and my software wasn't updated. Put the CS tune on it without issue.

Hows the CS tune compared to stock?

[epic]

Originally Posted by chmura

Hows the CS tune compared to stock?

Definitely adds some added pep that I felt was missing. Tires are actually chirping all the time now. CS+ is what I'm graduating to next once weather gets warmer as that adds more boost up top over regular BMW CS map.