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      02-11-2018, 03:02 PM   #45
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I am keeping mine, when you have a winner, hard to change for a few tweaks and hp...pound for pound best bmw I have owned...
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The new M2 LCI with the S55 motor will be a massive improvement over the current set up; I mean two turbos over one, 'nuff said. I predict 3.9 second from 0 - 60 Mph stock, if there is prefect traction.

As far as trading from the current version, I wouldn't bother; the current motor is perfect for the segment this vehicle represents and also the new car with similar options is going to cost at least another $7,000 over the ongoing model's MSRP (someone has to pay for that extra turbo), not to mention the all the unreasonable dealer mark ups.

Now if you could swing it financially, I would go for it. This vehicle is destined to be a classic; it's similar to what BMW did with 335i in 2007 and with a tune and IC; it embarrassed the V8 M3s (I have videos)...

Me personally, I would lose over $15,000 in deprecation for my 2016 235i, thanks to BMW's horrible dip in value, in the last couple of years. So I'll pass but I will keep salivating with videos on YouTube; they're free, minus the commercials...
If I had a dollar for every time someone said a car would be an instant classic I would be browsing the Bugatti forums right now....

I'm keeping mine.
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I'm 63 years old and wanted an M car for years, but couldn't afford one until the M2. My 2017 with manual shift is the last car I'll own. Instructions to wife = bury me in it.
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The S55 based M2 looks amazing but I won't be trading any time soon as I'm completely in love with my M2 even if it has 'only' 365hp.

I will say that I think the inevitable price increase is a big bummer. The M2 is priced so nicely at 54K.
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I can't be bothered to pay the higher price, higher financing rate, long wait, etc for a marginal performance gain while trading off a lot that I like about the N55 M2. DP and a tune for under $1500 and off we go. Might wait and see how the next generation M2 fares and make a call from there. But if it's auto only then I won't be buying another new BMW.
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Will never buy a twin or more turbo engine in a M or P car, was difficult to accept the only one in the M2
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      02-11-2018, 06:57 PM   #51
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That's really big difference, but where will you use this extra power ? Track , or straight racing? Don't get me wrong every extra power is a welcome...but in terms of me as a sport daily driver the current M2 has the perfect power ratio.

If i want to race on empty highway i wouldn't even think about M car. I will go American. Personally the 350 to 400whp is more than enough for a daily sport car use.

I don't know maybe the M2 S55 will make your head stick to the headrest when you push full paddle and it will sound better than M3. We should wait soon.
Extra power is preferred in 99% cases including on street. Otherwise a 250hp N20/B48 satisfy you power wise, as it spins tire as well no problem.

Let me be more specific on this street power thing - Very often even when you're racing against someone or just driving aggressively all by yourself, you'll be on 80~90% throttle or even a tad less most of the time, definitely not the case of WOT all the time. That puts you linger over 3500~6500 on 3rd deep throttle (when you're on street), rather than a flat out 5000+ WOT on 2nd. This is when you need more power the most - you can't really do WOT all the time (again, on street) even trying to go as fast as you can because you want pedal modulation. This is when S55 400whp make a huge difference than N55 340whp.

That being said, I'm not on the trade in camp. I ever want to move up, I move up to 992, which is the plan in next few years. And I have built a M4 ZCP matching N55 as below for my solution for now.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1454381
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What I find interesting is that this is a new version half way through the M2's life cycle. So are our M2's done or are they continuing to make them? Why would they do an LCI (normally mid-cycle) if this was the last year.
So they are likely to continue making them ....which makes them more of a classic IMHO. You can make your M2 your own with mods you do yourself (me) or buy the pre-pimped version....
There will always be the faster newer model....but really who cares....
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Am keeping my 2017 for a good reason, I've looked at my car VIN online and We share same birthday ��
Me too! ordered it for my 40th birthday and production date was my birthday

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      02-11-2018, 07:29 PM   #54
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I'd upgrade only to a CSL model with 6MT costing <$80k. I don't see that unicorn coming to fruition so I think I'll hang on to my civic M2.
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I'd upgrade only to a CSL model with 6MT costing <$80k. I don't see that unicorn coming to fruition so I think I'll hang on to my civic M2.
In my country civic M2 costs 110K already And M2 is considered underpriced in our market by BMW to 'aggressively explore M market'. M4 base starts from 170K USD.

I'd be torn between a 911 and CSL for my next car if CSL ever gets made and costs 911 base money which is twice as much as M2 base.
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As a relatively new 2018 M2 owner, need to see what the MSRP and initial reviews are before I trade up. Worry a little about initial reliability similar to the rock issue of the 2016 and 2017's.
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Rock Issue - When your car's value drops like a rock.
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      02-13-2018, 08:58 AM   #58
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S55 will certainly be faster but not without its drawbacks:
- increased weight (maybe 100lbs if I had to guess conservatively)
- increased spool lag with only 3 cylinders driving each turbo
- not so nice engine sound

I certainly understand the allure and fascination with ever higher HP - it’s how we are conditioned to think since age 4. It is only natural to want to experience X car with even more HP. I have gone through that phase with a 600whp SC’ed C7. I don’t regret supercharging it and am glad that I experienced it. I also think I made a right decision to remove the SC after 1.5 year to enjoy the car in a balanced state.

Since I am content with 400whp and 440wtq (on good gas) with simple bolt-ons and a tune in an FR car, the higher power potential of the S55 has little added value to me.
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S55 will certainly be faster but not without its drawbacks:
- increased weight (maybe 100lbs if I had to guess conservatively)
- increased spool lag with only 3 cylinders driving each turbo
- not so nice engine sound

I certainly understand the allure and fascination with ever higher HP - it’s how we are conditioned to think since age 4. It is only natural to want to experience X car with even more HP. I have gone through that phase with a 600whp SC’ed C7. I don’t regret supercharging it and am glad that I experienced it. I also think I made a right decision to remove the SC after 1.5 year to enjoy the car in a balanced state.

Since I am content with 400whp and 440wtq (on good gas) with simple bolt-ons and a tune in an FR car, the higher power potential of the S55 has little added value to me.
RedCarrot completed got the point that I wish to say. Hands down that the new motor will produce more spool lag and the sound... as previous F80 owner... Dont think they can do much to improve the sound. N55 definitely has its great sound added and makes me smile revving it all the way up to 7k. Figures of WHP and TQ could be easily gain with at my own taste spending less than what you pay additional for getting CP. Retaining the weight balance.

I am currently waiting for G80. I took it to my wife with long 10 min presentation to convience her why I need a small compact sports car moving from F80. And the condition that I made was to get a 4 door sedan after F87 to compensate my kids getting bigger and possibly additional one(s) in our family plan. My wife drives SUV but she still say that I need 4 doors just in case family needs to use mine.. And I will need to teach my wife how to drive MT if I wanna get another manual transmission for the next car in case she needs to drive mine at emergency lol.
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RedCarrot completed got the point that I wish to say. Hands down that the new motor will produce more spool lag and the sound... as previous F80 owner... Dont think they can do much to improve the sound. N55 definitely has its great sound added and makes me smile revving it all the way up to 7k. Figures of WHP and TQ could be easily gain with at my own taste spending less than what you pay additional for getting CP. Retaining the weight balance.

I am currently waiting for G80. I took it to my wife with long 10 min presentation to convience her why I need a small compact sports car moving from F80. And the condition that I made was to get a 4 door sedan after F87 to compensate my kids getting bigger and possibly additional one(s) in our family plan. My wife drives SUV but she still say that I need 4 doors just in case family needs to use mine.. And I will need to teach my wife how to drive MT if I wanna get another manual transmission for the next car in case she needs to drive mine at emergency lol.
You don't need 4 doors, just 4 seats!
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You don't need 4 doors, just 4 seats!
Oh man 2 doors with 2 baby car seats... Its hard to bringing kids (especially when they are not old enough cannot walk in and seat on it without parents help)...
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I would consider it only if they offered Individual paint and interior options
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What I find interesting is that this is a new version half way through the M2's life cycle. So are our M2's done or are they continuing to make them? Why would they do an LCI (normally mid-cycle) if this was the last year.
So they are likely to continue making them ....which makes them more of a classic IMHO. You can make your M2 your own with mods you do yourself (me) or buy the pre-pimped version....
There will always be the faster newer model....but really who cares....
New M40 3 series is getting 380hp and MPG/emission performance in S55 seem to be the (why).
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380hp is a bit unreal for 340 unless it's called 345. Didn't remember BMW ever did a 60hp bump on paper in a same model evolution.

Closest thing is 330i NA's 250hp to 335TT's 300hp, but that's different models plus NA to TT.

It's just nut to do 380hp.
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Unlike many other cars I’ve owned, I didn’t buy this one to resell it. I could have had the dealer’s last allocation for 2017, but I waited until the day the LCI new equipment was confirmed and grabbed the dealer’s first allocation for 2018. The only thing I didn’t get was a new color, and I certainly didn’t want to lose another 18 months of ownership and driving fun waiting for whatever was next.
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Oh man 2 doors with 2 baby car seats... Its hard to bringing kids (especially when they are not old enough cannot walk in and seat on it without parents help)...
I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you like 6'4"? I have no problem getting my kid into the seat. I find it easier than our 4dr X1. I put one foot on the floor and have a great position to do up his harness.
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