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      09-24-2019, 04:08 PM   #7657
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Feeding frenzy is too kind.

I don't know if Pelosi said that before the news of the full conversation being released tomorrow or not. If she does move forward tonight I will choke.
* Haven't seen the transcript.
** Horowitz report upcoming.
*** Barr Durham report upcoming.
**** Biden is brought up on charges, possibly.

I mean, what the heck are they thinking? Because Romney raised concerns over the Ukraine call they're going with the 'we'll flip em' strategy?

Burning down the house.
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Feeding frenzy is too kind.

I don't know if Pelosi said that before the news of the full conversation being released tomorrow or not. If she does move forward tonight I will choke.
* Haven't seen the transcript.
** Horowitz report upcoming.
*** Barr Durham report upcoming.
**** Biden is brought up on charges, possibly.

I mean, what the heck are they thinking? Because Romney raised concerns over the Ukraine call they're going with the 'we'll flip em' strategy?

Burning down the house.
Two things I think they’re thinking. One- deflection, obviously for the reasons you stated. Two- throwing spaghetti against the wall hoping one sticks. Not a great way to legislate, to say it mildly.
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      09-24-2019, 04:31 PM   #7659
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She did it. I truly can't believe they're this desperate. Putin is laughing his ass off.
Welp, here comes Shit Show Deluxe.


He just won 4 more.
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the biden thing has been fleshed out and was shown to be nothing. maybe not as squeaky clean as possible, but not a criminal allegation as trump is suggesting. it would be worthwhile to check the timeline on the events and what actually happened.

spoiler alert, trump is twisting facts on what was going on at the time.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/tr...n-and-ukraine/

with that, given trump's willingness to release the full transcript, it's unlikely he feels he committed a crime
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Time will tell because the bloodhounds are on Joe and Hunter. It's a two way street on illegalities. Him not being VP any longer doesn't hold a cup of ramen. He's on camera saying it. Ruht roh.

Annnnnnnd the spin and propaganda
machine is activated:
MSNBC says the phone transcript may be phony.
Uh...you can't phony up those procedures there Skippy's.
Sheep pellets. Chicken flavored!

So great.
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MSNBC says the phone transcript may be phony.
Uh...you can't phony up those procedures there Skippy's.
That doesn't register in the Trump-tilian brain.

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      09-24-2019, 04:54 PM   #7663
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Time will tell because the bloodhounds are on Joe and Hunter. It's a two way street on illegalities. Him not being VP any longer doesn't hold a cup of ramen. He's on camera saying it. Ruht roh.

Annnnnnnd the spin and propaganda
machine is activated:
MSNBC says the phone transcript may be phony.
Uh...you can't phony up those procedures there Skippy's.
Sheep pellets. Chicken flavored!

So great.
If there was a daytime Emmy for spreading & believing unsubstantiated news, you would be right there with the queen of daytime TV, Susan Lucci.
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Time will tell because the bloodhounds are on Joe and Hunter. It's a two way street on illegalities. Him not being VP any longer doesn't hold a cup of ramen. He's on camera saying it. Ruht roh.

Annnnnnnd the spin and propaganda
machine is activated:
MSNBC says the phone transcript may be phony.
Uh...you can't phony up those procedures there Skippy's.
Sheep pellets. Chicken flavored!

So great.
?

what's your claim? i assume it's what trump's is, dirty play by joe to ouster the prosecutor for having once claimed he would investigate the firm hunter was involved in.

except the prosecutor dropped it the year prior, and everyone from the g7 to the IMF wanted the prosecutor ousted for failure to investigate anti-corruption in ukraine the following year, in which joe biden took point on. again, not as squeaky clean as could be, but far from the conspiracy that seems to be being spread

again, not sure what your claim is here
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She did it. I truly can't believe they're this desperate. Putin is laughing his ass off.
Welp, here comes Shit Show Deluxe.


He just won 4 more.
Shit Show Deluxe started the day this clown took office. Time to take out the garbage.

BAHAHAAH!
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Great stuff from Bill O'Reilly! I always liked his show.

https://apple.news/ALMiyxClbQRCgixX0A8l1jg

FYI I can't seem to find the article on the regular Internet. Strange.
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Great stuff from Bill O'Reilly! I always liked his show.

https://apple.news/ALMiyxClbQRCgixX0A8l1jg

FYI I can't seem to find the article on the regular Internet. Strange.
Hmm ... this is the last line of the article ... a coincidence?

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      09-25-2019, 08:01 AM   #7668
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All that aside, you have no issue with a political party rushing to impeachment proceedings before ANYBODY has even seen the transcript, nor the complaint, and the guy who filed the complaint didn't even hear the call and only filed the complaint on second hand knowledge? NO problem at all with that?

Not to mention this is being orchestrated by the same group of losers who for over two years have perpetuated this Trump/Russian collusion nonsense. If anything, every word they say should be mistrusted. They're all a bunch of fucking liars.
I know that's being reported by yet another "unnamed source", but we don't really know that, yet, right?

Also, according to the IG, the whistleblower report covers multiple issues/instances and is not based solely on the Ukraine phone call(s). Right?
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So now Rudy is saying he DID talk to Ukraine but at the request of the State Dept, and the State Dept says "WTF are you talking about?" as he wipes gallons of sweat off his head...
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I know that's being reported by yet another "unnamed source", but we don't really know that, yet, right?

Also, according to the IG, the whistleblower report covers multiple issues/instances and is not based solely on the Ukraine phone call(s). Right?
Not sure about unnamed source, but I've read it several times and it was even on CNN. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...communications

Multiple issues I'm unaware of, the transcript is out now and all anybody seems to care about is Trump asked the Ukranian president to "look into" Biden and his son. He mentioned him once during the 30 minute conversation.
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the transcript is out. haven't read it yet, but looks like trump did ask about bidens son and that he was going to have his lawyer (giuliani) get tot he bottom ofit
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Not sure about unnamed source, but I've read it several times and it was even on CNN. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...communications

Multiple issues I'm unaware of, the transcript is out now and all anybody seems to care about is Trump asked the Ukranian president to "look into" Biden and his son. He mentioned him once during the 30 minute conversation.
he also withheld 400m just before the call. the biden stuff has been bunk.

just imagine if the roles were reversed. but hillary, but biden pretzel twist defenses coming from trump supporters in 3...2..
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the transcript is out. haven't read it yet, but looks like trump did ask about bidens son and that he was going to have his lawyer (giuliani) get tot he bottom ofit
He said he'd have Giuliani AND Barr reach out to the Ukraine President to "help".

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Not sure about unnamed source, but I've read it several times and it was even on CNN. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...communications

Multiple issues I'm unaware of, the transcript is out now and all anybody seems to care about is Trump asked the Ukranian president to "look into" Biden and his son. He mentioned him once during the 30 minute conversation.
From your Examiner link: An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.

The Fox News article I read, which also referred to the CNN reporting, called it an "unnamed source".


The first search I could come up with was this, regarding the multiple issues:

Lawmakers said the inspector general, Michael Atkinson, declined to share incidents during the meeting.

“He didn’t talk about anything about the allegations, where he was very protective,” said Intelligence Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.). “But he did mention that this complaint was based on a series of events, ‘more than one’ to get the exact wordage right.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...er-information

I know I've heard it reported in similar terms other places.
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He said he'd have Giuliani AND Barr reach out to the Ukraine President to "help".



From your Examiner link: An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.

The Fox News article I read, which also referred to the CNN reporting, called it an "unnamed source".


The first search I could come up with was this, regarding the multiple issues:

Lawmakers said the inspector general, Michael Atkinson, declined to share incidents during the meeting.

“He didn’t talk about anything about the allegations, where he was very protective,” said Intelligence Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.). “But he did mention that this complaint was based on a series of events, ‘more than one’ to get the exact wordage right.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...er-information

I know I've heard it reported in similar terms other places.
i thought barr was in relation to the russian cyberattack, but i didn't read the transcript. regardless, pretty much did exactly what he was accused of doing lol
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he also withheld 400m just before the call. the biden stuff has been bunk.

just imagine if the roles were reversed. but hillary, but biden pretzel twist defenses coming from trump supporters in 3...2..
400m just before the call? Not sure what that means, I thought the issue was what he said to the Ukrainian president?

Regarding the flip side, I think one could easily believe the prior administration was spying on the Trump campaign prior to the election. I also think they asked the British government for help in that regards.
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He said he'd have Giuliani AND Barr reach out to the Ukraine President to "help".



From your Examiner link: An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.

The Fox News article I read, which also referred to the CNN reporting, called it an "unnamed source".


The first search I could come up with was this, regarding the multiple issues:

Lawmakers said the inspector general, Michael Atkinson, declined to share incidents during the meeting.

“He didn’t talk about anything about the allegations, where he was very protective,” said Intelligence Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.). “But he did mention that this complaint was based on a series of events, ‘more than one’ to get the exact wordage right.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...er-information

I know I've heard it reported in similar terms other places.
Gotcha, well hopefully the complaint will come out soon and we'll know. If this Ukranian president conversation was the strongest punch however, I think the rest of it will be pretty disappointing as well.
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i thought barr was in relation to the russian cyberattack, but i didn't read the transcript. regardless, pretty much did exactly what he was accused of doing lol
I think the gist of it was more in line of bribing the guy, withholding aid etc. unless he looks into Biden and his son. Now that would have been some shit, but what we have here is so far nothing.

With Trump's massive ego, I can't imagine it's anything other than a matter of time before he really does say something/do something which becomes a serious (legitimate) issue.
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The POTUS wanted/wants possible Ukraine corruption involving Americans looked into. Period, end of story. Ain't rocket science.
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