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      12-24-2019, 08:27 AM   #45
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Guys. This is an old wives tale that has been around since the early 2000's. It does nothing.

The best way to do this is simply to take the car out and do some hard pulls. This is why it is called adaptations. My car is a DD. Every time I drive it, as soon as it reaches temp, I do some WOT.

Driving around like a granny is what makes it go soft.
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Guys. This is an old wives tale that has been around since the early 2000's. It does nothing.

The best way to do this is simply to take the car out and do some hard pulls. This is why it is called adaptations. My car is a DD. Every time I drive it, as soon as it reaches temp, I do some WOT.

Driving around like a granny is what makes it go soft.
It is not always possible for reasons of force majeure, e.g. traffic, speed limits, road conditions, weather etc.
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This worked beautifully on my LCI, thank you!!! Turbo lag almost gone!
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Guys. This is an old wives tale that has been around since the early 2000's. It does nothing.

The best way to do this is simply to take the car out and do some hard pulls. This is why it is called adaptations. My car is a DD. Every time I drive it, as soon as it reaches temp, I do some WOT.

Driving around like a granny is what makes it go soft.
_RS4_ is correct, not always possible to drive it like you stole it if you live in an Urban area...I get out to the Canyons on the weekends, but spend more time in traffic.

Definitely not a myth. Noticeable difference after doing it, but everyone has their own opinion.
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      12-24-2019, 11:41 AM   #49
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Guys. This is an old wives tale that has been around since the early 2000's. It does nothing.

The best way to do this is simply to take the car out and do some hard pulls. This is why it is called adaptations. My car is a DD. Every time I drive it, as soon as it reaches temp, I do some WOT.

Driving around like a granny is what makes it go soft.
It actually does something.

BMW OEM Diagnostics/Coding software (ISTAT) has the option to reset throttle adaptions. It's not something made-up, it's actually a part of the software.

"Taking car out and doing some hard pulls" = No shit, you're forcing the adaptions to reconfigure

The guide I posted just resets it for you without the need to drive hard for a bit

As per my experience, it is mode dependent, Stock/M1/M2 are all individual profiles. Some people only use Sport+ when they drive hard so switching to that mode at any time will provide the same fast result. It's only really noticeable if you DD your car, often switch through all the modes, and get stuck in traffic a lot.

Obviously you can retain the quick responsiveness even while DD but that involves a shit load of WOT pulls with traffic around, which you know, is mostly unnecessary, dangerous and dumb (and you only really realize this when you knuckle your car into a pole).

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      12-24-2019, 01:25 PM   #50
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Fantastic info. I've always felt my Ms have degraded over time!
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      12-25-2019, 09:24 AM   #51
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I tried this... didnít notice a difference.

I probably drive spiritedly enough, at times, to keep software from automatically softening the throttle response.

Use it or lose it, right.
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If your M2 progressively feels more sluggish over time and you DD your car or have spent most of the cars life in traffic, you probably need to reset your throttle adaptions.

Modern BMW's basically use a form adaptive tech that adjusts throttle response to typical/consistent driving scenarios. I'm guessing it's been implemented a bit for comfort and a bit for consumption/emissions.

The main issue with this technology is that the car has no idea on how hard the owner wants to drive on any given day and requires a consistent driving style to update to a new profile.

My typical workday route involves 70% severely congested and claustrophobic traffic. The remaining 30% is instead free open highway. Even in my scenario, where the two driving scenarios are somewhat balanced out, I've noticed that over time the car just doesn't pull that hard anymore.

The fix? Reset throttle adaptions! It takes 5 minutes with no effort at all.

Taken from another thread, the instructions are as follows:

Push Engine button ON (once; do not start engine)
Step on the throttle pedal down (all the way down)
Hold it there for 30-40 seconds
With throttle still down, push Engine button OFF
Release throttle
Wait 2 minutes
Start car normally. Done


I've done the throttle reset for each mode (felt necessary to repeat the above process for Sport+) and the car feels completely healed. Now I can easily do aggressive pulls with responsive feedback without feeling like there's any turbo lag. Just try it out!
This actually has no effect on an M2 competition. Contact your local BMW Mdivision and mention throttle reset. You will get laughed at.
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If your M2 progressively feels more sluggish over time and you DD your car or have spent most of the cars life in traffic, you probably need to reset your throttle adaptions.

Modern BMW's basically use a form adaptive tech that adjusts throttle response to typical/consistent driving scenarios. I'm guessing it's been implemented a bit for comfort and a bit for consumption/emissions.

The main issue with this technology is that the car has no idea on how hard the owner wants to drive on any given day and requires a consistent driving style to update to a new profile.

My typical workday route involves 70% severely congested and claustrophobic traffic. The remaining 30% is instead free open highway. Even in my scenario, where the two driving scenarios are somewhat balanced out, I've noticed that over time the car just doesn't pull that hard anymore.

The fix? Reset throttle adaptions! It takes 5 minutes with no effort at all.

Taken from another thread, the instructions are as follows:

Push Engine button ON (once; do not start engine)
Step on the throttle pedal down (all the way down)
Hold it there for 30-40 seconds
With throttle still down, push Engine button OFF
Release throttle
Wait 2 minutes
Start car normally. Done


I've done the throttle reset for each mode (felt necessary to repeat the above process for Sport+) and the car feels completely healed. Now I can easily do aggressive pulls with responsive feedback without feeling like there's any turbo lag. Just try it out!
This actually has no effect on an M2 competition. Contact your local BMW Mdivision and mention throttle reset. You will get laughed at.
"Contact your local M division"

Happy new year you troll
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I did a complete ECU adaptions reset using ISTA+ for the new year..

The car powered down and up again, similar to a Windows OS booting-up.

Drove around for awhile and noticed absolutely no difference in performance or economy, prior to the reset.

I've come to the conclusion that If you're not replacing a defective past or clearing a permanent stored fault, the adaption reset doesn't make any discernible difference.
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This actually has no effect on an M2 competition. Contact your local BMW Mdivision and mention throttle reset. You will get laughed at.
Most of the "BMW M Experts" on staff at dealers know less than many Bimmerheads on these forums....I have experienced it first hand. I take everything a BMW Dealer expert says with a grain of salt.
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I think the main difference with resetting adaptations is with how the DCT shifts. If you drive with an egg under your foot the car will learn to shift into a higher gear quicker. I doubt there's much difference with a stick.
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Great post!!!! I have absolutely noticed this. Will try tonight.

I've even noticed that right after you turn on the car, if you're more aggressive with the throttle... Right away, then the car is generally more throttle responsive on that drive ...

Hear, hear... Throttle response was noticeably quicker.
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I think the main difference with resetting adaptations is with how the DCT shifts. If you drive with an egg under your foot the car will learn to shift into a higher gear quicker. I doubt there's much difference with a stick.
Has 3 different shift modes for this. Throttle adaption is not on m2 competition
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Most of the "BMW M Experts" on staff at dealers know less than many Bimmerheads on these forums....I have experienced it first hand. I take everything a BMW Dealer expert says with a grain of salt.
Lol is this a flat earth community or something. Instead of trusting some random dude posting some rubbish they believe. Do the actual research for yourself. Call up BMW in Germany then and find out if there is throttle adaptions that you can reset this way. You will find out it doesn't and you cant. It's like the people who think that after running in service at 1200 miles the cars considerable faster due to them unlocking something. Lol no you have just driven it faster now.
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Lol is this a flat earth community or something. Instead of trusting some random dude posting some rubbish they believe. Do the actual research for yourself. Call up BMW in Germany then and find out if there is throttle adaptions that you can reset this way. You will find out it doesn't and you cant. It's like the people who think that after running in service at 1200 miles the cars considerable faster due to them unlocking something. Lol no you have just driven it faster now.
MrMurkle, I believe you. I honestly, 100% think this is entirely placebo effect...

And yet, I'm gonna keep doing it and telling myself that my throttle has now been adjusted and is more responsive!!!

Come on, man, we all need some delusions in life to get us through the day. I mean, think about all the things you used to believe in and got taken away from you: 1) Santa Claus, 2) Easter Bunny, 3) work hard and you'll succeed, 4) your wife really loves you...

Just let me keep this one little delusion! It ain't hurting anyone!
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Lol is this a flat earth community or something. Instead of trusting some random dude posting some rubbish they believe. Do the actual research for yourself. Call up BMW in Germany then and find out if there is throttle adaptions that you can reset this way. You will find out it doesn't and you cant. It's like the people who think that after running in service at 1200 miles the cars considerable faster due to them unlocking something. Lol no you have just driven it faster now.
Great idea, Mr. Murkle. Let me give BMW AG a ring and see what they have to say.

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MrMurkle, I believe you. I honestly, 100% think this is entirely placebo effect...

And yet, I'm gonna keep doing it and telling myself that my throttle has now been adjusted and is more responsive!!!

Come on, man, we all need some delusions in life to get us through the day. I mean, think about all the things you used to believe in and got taken away from you: 1) Santa Claus, 2) Easter Bunny, 3) work hard and you'll succeed, 4) your wife really loves you...

Just let me keep this one little delusion! It ain't hurting anyone!
Hahahahahahha. I like you lol.
Look who am I to take this away from you. If praying to God makes you a better person then by all means pray to god. Even though god is made up by peasant ideological farmers 🤣🤣🤣
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Great idea, Mr. Murkle. Let me give BMW AG a ring and see what they have to say.

Well it's a better idea then believing some moron and sitting there holding you accelerator down while you ignition is on hoping that you car will unlock "beast mode" hahahaha
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MrMurkle, I believe you. I honestly, 100% think this is entirely placebo effect...

And yet, I'm gonna keep doing it and telling myself that my throttle has now been adjusted and is more responsive!!!

Come on, man, we all need some delusions in life to get us through the day. I mean, think about all the things you used to believe in and got taken away from you: 1) Santa Claus, 2) Easter Bunny, 3) work hard and you'll succeed, 4) your wife really loves you...

Just let me keep this one little delusion! It ain't hurting anyone!
Hahahahahahha. I like you lol.
Look who am I to take this away from you. If praying to God makes you a better person then by all means pray to god. Even though god is made up by peasant ideological farmers 🤣🤣🤣
Sometimes it's just easier living the lie..
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Hahahahahahha. I like you lol.
Look who am I to take this away from you. If praying to God makes you a better person then by all means pray to god. Even though god is made up by peasant ideological farmers ������
Totally agree that God is made up by peasant ideological farmers (Atheist since I was 10), but I also know my car pretty well and I absolutely noticed reduced turbo lag after doing "The reset".

If proof comes back from someone calling BMW AG and showing otherwise, so be it. I'll eat my words and chalk it up to placebo effect while denouncing my Atheism.

Until then...here's to more linear power and less turbo lag!
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Just a point of reference... It seems the throttle adaptations are different depending on mode. I've been driving more in Sport when I'm in traffic and now, two weeks later, the lagging throttle has returned. I'm only using sport+ when I can hammer on the car, and it's still snappy. Just something to think about ... Probably will need to do the reset at least once a month.

A buddy is a master tech and he didn't think there was any issue doing the reset over and over. Fuel econ may suffer, but... So what
I think throttle adaption is mode dependent

Had to do the reset procedure for Stock/M1/M2 mode for all of them to feel fresh

Those who don't complain probably only enable the "Sport Setup M1/M2" configuration on empty roads and revert to stock basic for daily driving.

Start & Stop Traffic, long queues and just city driving are what fucks it up.
So you put the engine off in M1 / M2/ Sport /sport + mode and follow the same procedure ?

Will try this tomorrow

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