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      01-02-2020, 10:37 AM   #23
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Appreciate the review, I have been considering a tune myself. Certainly brave taking on effectively a no name tuner based on some sales conversation.

This has all the hallmarks of a tuner appearing out of nowhere making claims without much evidence honestly. Sounds like its making great power for an off the shelf tune, the M2C is very conservatively tuned at the top end from factory so it's not hard to make significant gains.

However I highly doubt they did anything to the Steering / Diff / traction behavior, short of coding it to M3 CS/GTS values.

Secondly whilst they claim warranty, if something does go wrong sounds like you will be be held up whilst the different parties try to determine responsibility. At least with DINAN or Carbahn (Steve Dinan) you are dealing with guys who have longstanding dealer/corporate level relationships.
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Appreciate the review, I have been considering a tune myself. Certainly brave taking on effectively a no name tuner based on some sales conversation.

This has all the hallmarks of a tuner appearing out of nowhere making claims without much evidence honestly. Sounds like its making great power for an off the shelf tune, the M2C is very conservatively tuned at the top end from factory so it's not hard to make significant gains.

However I highly doubt they did anything to the Steering / Diff / traction behavior, short of coding it to M3 CS/GTS values.

Secondly whilst they claim warranty, if something does go wrong sounds like you will be be held up whilst the different parties try to determine responsibility. At least with DINAN or Carbahn (Steve Dinan) you are dealing with guys who have longstanding dealer/corporate level relationships.
Whatever they did, itís quite remarkable. I ended up going with them for 3 reasons.

Alpina connection. Warranty. No bench flashing/ backdating of dme.

Iím in sales, so I know bullshit when I hear it. These guys here are no bs artists, and now having the tune for almost a couple weeks, I wouldnít be able to live with the stock car again. Itís just so much better.

I think whatever Noelle is doing is the future of tuning for bimmers. Comprehensive gains, and enough confidence to offer a warranty. Time will certainly tell!
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Whatever they did, itís quite remarkable. I ended up going with them for 3 reasons.

Alpina connection. Warranty. No bench flashing/ backdating of dme.

Iím in sales, so I know bullshit when I hear it. These guys here are no bs artists, and now having the tune for almost a couple weeks, I wouldnít be able to live with the stock car again. Itís just so much better.

I think whatever Noelle is doing is the future of tuning for bimmers. Comprehensive gains, and enough confidence to offer a warranty. Time will certainly tell!
If you break your dct will bmw cover you or noelle?

Call me sceptic. Iīve dealt with BMW so I too know how easy it is for them to weasel out of a warrenty claim.
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If you break your dct will bmw cover you or noelle?

Call me sceptic. Iīve dealt with BMW so I too know how easy it is for them to weasel out of a warrenty claim.
Iím not sure, but regardless one of them will.
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Iím not sure, but regardless one of them will.
So for arguments sake, assuming the worse, as I always do.

Lets say your DCT breaks.

BMW wont touch that car on warrenty. Thats 100%.

Tuner, and even OEM(Nissan denyied warrenty claim on people for using LC on GTR "to often") claim this aswell, you must have done something wrong they have x-ammount of customers and none of them have problems like you, or "you launched the car too much" etc.

Youre a brave man, Iīl give you that. I wish I had your cohones.
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So for arguments sake, assuming the worse, as I always do.

Lets say your DCT breaks.

BMW wont touch that car on warrenty. Thats 100%.

Tuner, and even OEM(Nissan denyied warrenty claim on people for using LC on GTR "to often") claim this aswell, you must have done something wrong they have x-ammount of customers and none of them have problems like you, or "you launched the car too much" etc.

Youre a brave man, Iīl give you that. I wish I had your cohones.
Well I donít think this car has LC, and even if it does, itís useless to launch this car in first or second.

Iím a practical person who bought this car to have some fun otw to work every day, and enjoy on short weekend trips. I donít plan on tracking or abusing the car. I understand that the car should be able to handle a certain amount of abuse, but regardless the warranty clearly states it is a matching warranty for all issues caused by the tune. The only known issue with the car is the SCH. So thatís the only thing Iím remotely worried about. With the warranty, that worry is eliminated for me.
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Sounds like a great tune

Other than a dyno, maybe you could run into another S55 tuned M2C, M3 or M4 and do a few friendly roll ons side by side ? ... in the name of science. Of course on a private track, (or private road in Mexico?)

Might be wise to go from a 3rd gear roll to remove, or at least lessen wheel spin. I bet in Charlotte thereís dozens of s55 powered cars.

Not suggesting anything near the 180 mph that youíve seen. Hope I donít get crucified over this suggestion, but those are some bold claims from the OP, and inquiring minds want to know!
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Other than a dyno, maybe you could run into another S55 tuned M2C, M3 or M4 and do a few friendly roll ons side by side ? ... in the name of science. Of course on a private track, (or private road in Mexico?)

Might be wise to go from a 3rd gear roll to remove, or at least lessen wheel spin. I bet in Charlotte thereís dozens of s55 powered cars.

Not suggesting anything near the 180 mph that youíve seen. Hope I donít get crucified over this suggestion, but those are some bold claims from the OP, and inquiring minds want to know!
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Other than a dyno, maybe you could run into another S55 tuned M2C, M3 or M4 and do a few friendly roll ons side by side ? ... in the name of science. Of course on a private track, (or private road in Mexico?)

Might be wise to go from a 3rd gear roll to remove, or at least lessen wheel spin. I bet in Charlotte thereís dozens of s55 powered cars.

Not suggesting anything near the 180 mph that youíve seen. Hope I donít get crucified over this suggestion, but those are some bold claims from the OP, and inquiring minds want to know!
Just to reiterate, Iím not paid, nor have been given anything of value by Noelle, and have no real motivation to convince anyone of anything, and wonít be going out of my way to do so. Just wanted to post my experience with a new and awesome product.

The last thing Iíd ever do is take vid doing pulls at high speed as well.

The car has already impressed me and other super car owners plenty, and Iím entirely fine with it being the best kept secret in the community.

I did order a dragy though and will def post some numbers when I get that. Iím quite impressed by the tech there.

Just a little update as well. There is a discernible difference between Costco 93 and shell V power in shells favor. Not anything crazy, but the shell feels... very nice.
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Thanks for posting your experience with the Noelle tune.
I am looking forward to the Dyno info.
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      01-03-2020, 01:17 PM   #33
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Just to reiterate, Iím not paid, nor have been given anything of value by Noelle, and have no real motivation to convince anyone of anything, and wonít be going out of my way to do so. Just wanted to post my experience with a new and awesome product.

The last thing Iíd ever do is take vid doing pulls at high speed as well.

The car has already impressed me and other super car owners plenty, and Iím entirely fine with it being the best kept secret in the community.

I did order a dragy though and will def post some numbers when I get that. Iím quite impressed by the tech there.

Just a little update as well. There is a discernible difference between Costco 93 and shell V power in shells favor. Not anything crazy, but the shell feels... very nice.
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Other than a dyno, maybe you could run into another S55 tuned M2C, M3 or M4 and do a few friendly roll ons side by side ? ... in the name of science. Of course on a private track, (or private road in Mexico?)

Might be wise to go from a 3rd gear roll to remove, or at least lessen wheel spin. I bet in Charlotte there's dozens of s55 powered cars.

Not suggesting anything near the 180 mph that you've seen. Hope I don't get crucified over this suggestion, but those are some bold claims from the OP, and inquiring minds want to know!
Just to reiterate, I'm not paid, nor have been given anything of value by Noelle, and have no real motivation to convince anyone of anything, and won't be going out of my way to do so. Just wanted to post my experience with a new and awesome product.

The last thing I'd ever do is take vid doing pulls at high speed as well.

The car has already impressed me and other super car owners plenty, and I'm entirely fine with it being the best kept secret in the community.

I did order a dragy though and will def post some numbers when I get that. I'm quite impressed by the tech there.

Just a little update as well. There is a discernible difference between Costco 93 and shell V power in shells favor. Not anything crazy, but the shell feels... very nice.
If you hadn't already, that's ^ where you lost me.

Also, Costco 93 and Shell V power are both considered "top-tier gas" and virtually if not in fact identical in almost ever state in this country. Ever notice how a gas delivery truck stops at more than one brand of gas station? Top tier's share supply, just like bottom tiers do.
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If you hadn't already, that's ^ where you lost me.

Also, Costco 93 and Shell V power are both considered "top-tier gas" and virtually if not in fact identical in almost ever state in this country. Ever notice how a gas delivery truck stops at more than one brand of gas station? Top tier's share supply, just like bottom tiers do.
Lol... well I personally find it nice. And worthy of note.

Also I like Costco gas. I use it almost exclusively. But just put the shell in today, a definitely feel a pep
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Lol... well I personally find it nice. And worthy of note.

Also I like Costco gas. I use it almost exclusively. But just put the shell in today, a definitely feel a pep
Many of the tuners I know all say to stay away from Costco fuel. My good friend also had a bunch of knock activity on his knock sensors (Turbo E46 on an Infinity Standalone) which had previously been fine...I asked if he filled up at Arco...he said Costco...so there you have it. Shell for this guy.
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Many of the tuners I know all say to stay away from Costco fuel. My good friend also had a bunch of knock activity on his knock sensors (Turbo E46 on an Infinity Standalone) which had previously been fine...I asked if he filled up at Arco...he said Costco...so there you have it. Shell for this guy.
That's disappointing. Pretty convenient and decent price too.
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That's disappointing. Pretty convenient and decent price too.
I love everything at Costco...except the fuel and the lines :P
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+1, love Costco just not the fuel. I refuse to wait in line for 10+ minutes (based on day and time of day) to save few $. Albeit, the savings add up over a years time but so does time spent waiting in line.

Seems like BMW now recommends Shell, back in the E90/92 days they used to recommend BP. Could be the oil spill
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+1, love Costco just not the fuel. I refuse to wait in line for 10+ minutes (based on day and time of day) to save few $. Albeit, the savings add up over a years time but so does time spent waiting in line.

Seems like BMW now recommends Shell, back in the E90/92 days they used to recommend BP. Could be the oil spill
By my quick calculations the savings difference is about 350 a year for me. I think Iíll stick with the shell too.
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Other than a dyno, maybe you could run into another S55 tuned M2C, M3 or M4 and do a few friendly roll ons side by side ? ... in the name of science. Of course on a private track, (or private road in Mexico?)

Might be wise to go from a 3rd gear roll to remove, or at least lessen wheel spin. I bet in Charlotte there’s dozens of s55 powered cars.

Not suggesting anything near the 180 mph that you’ve seen. Hope I don’t get crucified over this suggestion, but those are some bold claims from the OP, and inquiring minds want to know!
Just figured I'd drop this interesting read here...


This Noelle Performance BMW M5 is Making 850 HP With Nothing but a Tune https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1678497
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if there is a warranty i'd like to see the contract to see the exclusions. since someone is in ther commerce knows how the sellear deal with warranties givin everything swritten black on white. someone could be written very very very small but there is. otherwise if you break something they can say whatever they want to not cover the issues
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if there is a warranty i'd like to see the contract to see the exclusions. since someone is in ther commerce knows how the sellear deal with warranties givin everything swritten black on white. someone could be written very very very small but there is. otherwise if you break something they can say whatever they want to not cover the issues
Itís on their website under the warranty heading.

Seems pretty black and white to me.
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Itís on their website under the warranty heading.

Seems pretty black and white to me.
yes, and did you read it correctly? i was wondering what happen if the engine blows up. they say it is to noel discrection to honor the warraty. for sure if you write a different software from what bmw uses you lose the warranty. it is written in the contract you signed.
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