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04-27-2019, 10:54 PM | #2 |
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Trust me… It’s just the placebo effect of the “competition” batch
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It's not. Had another M2 owner drive my car on Sunday when we met up, his first comment was how much smoother the power delivery is/more power and second comment was how much better the suspension/cornering felt like, third comment was the nicer seats.
Anyone here who is an M2 owner and claiming its a "placebo" isn't living in reality. BMW changed something in the suspension/feel of the car that doesn't just show up via part #'s. Please go drive an M2C back to back with your own car and then you'll see. |
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04-28-2019, 07:16 PM | #5 |
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55kg can also subtly change how the dampers rebound.. Weight is not ideal for handling.
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04-28-2019, 08:20 PM | #6 |
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Aren't there multiple reviews online saying they changed the suspension tuning? I am also sure I heard them say they didn't touch a thing in a few videos as well...
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04-29-2019, 02:06 PM | #8 |
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Lol shut up dude.. so sick of people saying this
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04-29-2019, 05:19 PM | #9 |
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Placebo effect... that’s funny.
I’ve read every M2C review/test article I could find. I’ve watched countless videos of the same. I can’t recall a single one that didn’t mention how much improved the M2C handling is over the already very good M2. Better is better. Placebos are not that effective. Sour grapes may be. Last edited by natmad; 04-29-2019 at 05:21 PM.. Reason: Clarity |
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04-29-2019, 05:21 PM | #10 |
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Sounds like there's some conflation over ride comfort vs handling. Some are commenting that the M2c handles better than the M2. It should, it's been stiffened up more in front as well as well as having the steering and MDM remapped.
The other side of this is ride comfort, some say that the M2c rides the same while others say they notice it's a bit smoother than the M2. What we know:
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The engine compartment contains the most striking component: the CFRP high-precision strut brace from the BMW M3/M4. This one-piece brace made from extremely light, yet high- strength, carbon fiber weighs in at just 3.3 lbs. Together with the bulkhead strut from the M4, it significantly increases front section rigidity and improves steering behavior and precision. The high-performance chassis utilizes the lightweight aluminum intensive front and rear axles from the BMW M3/M4. In order to ensure extremely precise wheel location, tight tolerance ball joints are used to transmit transverse forces. The control arms and wheel carriers of the new five-link rear axle are made from forged aluminum. A racing-derived rigid connection, dispensing with rubber bushings, is used to fix the lightweight steel grid-type rear axle sub frame to the body. This improves wheel location and tracking stability. |
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The original M2 has a strut brace also, it's just not as prominent as the M2C's carbon fiber bling. I know this controversial dispute will never end and I don't have an M2C to test the theory but common sense is telling me if the parts are the same number, it should have the same tolerances, thus, the two cars should pretty much feel the same. I'm not doubting you M2C owners who claim otherwise, just saying, logically it doesn't make much sense. |
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Edit- didn’t mean to sound negative. Allow me to quote myself... “I’ve read every M2C review/test article I could find. I’ve watched countless videos of the same. I can’t recall a single one that didn’t mention how much improved the M2C handling is over the already very good M2.” Perhaps small changes have had a large effect. Last edited by natmad; 04-29-2019 at 09:11 PM.. |
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These conversations remind me of the many on the F80/82/83 board when the ZCP came out. Of course the biggest difference here is the S55. There are clearly differences between the M2 and M2C just based on that, but I think we can agree that they are both great cars. I really enjoyed my drives in the OG M2 and also know I will also enjoy my incoming M2C.
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I read somewhere that the m2c uses more rose/heim joints at the rear
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OG M2 M2C for fun here's an M4, also the same LCI M4 Were BMW to actually change the parts but keep the same part #s that would mean M2C owners might get "old" M2 parts and "old" M2, M3 and M4 owners might get M2C parts. How would BMW even know how to keep suspension componenets for the M4 and the M2C separate for vehicle assembly? It seems much more plausible that the other changes, including the different steering profile, are what contribute to the different feel people are experiencing. |
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I've been braying since this claim of a difference "feel" between both vehicle started. Yet M2C owners are adamant that the parts operation somehow "changed" but not the part numbers. Tell me, why would they do that? Did they run out new digits to generate a revised part numbers? : |
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All due respect, do you proof of this claim? A link or even a book you can suggest to back this up. I'm all for absorbing new information. |
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