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      04-13-2018, 03:33 PM   #199
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At last, the cat's in.



Crossing my fingers that BMW M has the balls to release next year the athletic CSL sibling *all* enthusiasts want to see. Some German sources reported that it has been developed - all it takes is the green light from BMW management.

Development can't be cheap for such a hardcore model. Management should just bite the bullet. CSL will be the final climactic chapter in a best selling novel series.
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      04-13-2018, 03:34 PM   #201
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you can take solace in the fact that some people only have a crappy 1M though!
evo noted: "There's no doubt the M2 was an appealing car (if not a faultless one), but for all its rowdy road and track behaviour and stocky stance, it never quite felt like the naughty exercise in back-room engineering that its 1M Coupé predecessor had"
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How the M2 should have came.
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How the M2 should have came.
Where have I read this before?
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55kgs more, whaaat? Isn't an S version motor suposed to weigh less...
3 evolutions in as many years for a car is nuts. Pre LCI, LCI, now competition. I hate that about BMW. Anyway pricebump for M2comp plus the fancy Seats, brakes and NO discount would have ment spending roughly 10k more... so, happy with the LCI...
I like the new fangs more tough.
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A $1,500 increase would be a steal, just like the M2 was. Strikes me as odd, though, that it would only go up by this much given that it even has a different name (Competition on the badge!). I would like to see the official figures when they come out.

If the number is true, I'll only feel slightly bad that I didn't wait. I love my car, I don't compete with it, and I actually don't think I could have waited months without an M2. I also got a sweet discount that wouldn't be possible for sometime with the new model.

Congratulations to those who will eventually get it. Can't wait to see the reviews! In the meantime, I will go on enjoying my M2 now without waiting for anything

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Blown away that the price increase is so low. Ultimately this will somewhat dent original M2 prices. Still it does seem that this is just a setup for what is coming. Pricing and the lack of certain M features leave lots of room for something above the M2 comp.

Since BMW appears to be replacing the M2 with the M2 comp... I'm not blown away by the pricing difference as there is precedent than manufacturer initiated engine changes do not significantly change MSRP.

There is not much precedent from BMW ever to jack up the price due to a motor change.. model year change.. etc.. The M2 began at 52K.. and has crept up to 54,500 recently.. Another modest annual bump puts it around 55-56K more than likely..


I also do NOT think that Standard M2 pricing will be affected much (other than the vehicles currently on dealer lots) once again.. because of precedent.

Does a 1995 M3 have less significantly less value than an 1966-99 model?

Does the 01-02 S54 M Roadster carrier a significantly higher value than 99-00 S52 model.. ? if the price delta for this item is in the 2-4K area... that basically is about the same increase as the typical price increase adjustment year to year.


I just jumped on cargurus.. looking at " good deals"

2000 BMW M Roadster 94K miles $12,999
2000 BMW M roadster 94K miles $11,495
1998 BMW M roadster 98K miles $10,500

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If the 1% price increase is true......TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
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When they say "weight optimized" it could possible mean the turbos where de-tune to allow better traction on take off, on a lighter car.. I'm not 100% certain but that might be it, considering that it's same exact motor from the M4.
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3 evolutions in as many years for a car is nuts. Pre LCI, LCI, now competition. I hate that about BMW.
if you hate that about BMW... don't start looking at Porsche models..
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So, as I stated in the M2 comp thread, if they really are limiting the price bump like this, they must be dropping the base M2 price...or eliminating it. Should make for an interesting base M2 market in the coming months. Especially for those that will happy take that car...i.e., ME!
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hoping that price bump is true. Euro pick up in early 2020 planning will be starting soon then.
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M2 Competition revealed and announced by Evo magazine

I guess what we want to know now is....

What and how have they "detuned" the engine.
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90k cad for this.....i guess I'm out...
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On the one hand:
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a 1% increase over an identically equipped 2018 LCI would be remarkable.
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£47k that's a bargain! If true.
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If the 1% price increase is true......TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!
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German Magazine Auto Bild suggest +15000€.
They are usually well informed.
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-m...s-8708601.html
The very mild price increase (1 à 2%) reported by evo for the UK market is also for me very much indeed a surprise. But maybe there's a catch:

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3 evolutions in as many years for a car is nuts. Pre LCI, LCI, now competition. I hate that about BMW.
if you hate that about BMW... try watching Porsche models..
My dreamcar is a Porsche Gt3 991.2
991.2 not 991, because of the engine failure. Unfortunaly can't afford one. A good daily driver would be an M3 comp pack. Coupes are great, but four doors are more appealing to me. Also to expensive...so i bought to only M car i actually can afford. And i'M glad i did.
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So, as I stated in the M2 comp thread, if they really are limiting the price bump like this, they must be dropping the base M2 price...or eliminating it. Should make for an interesting base M2 market in the coming months. Especially for those that will happy take that car...i.e., ME!
Base M2 is outta here as of MY 2019.
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55kgs more, whaaat? Isn't an S version motor suposed to weigh less...
The S55 adds weight, e.g., cooling system, closed deck design.
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121 lbs. HEAVIER? Wow. So does anybody here think what the M2 desperately needed to be a better car was more power AND more weight? I don't think it needed either.
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The S55 adds weight, e.g., cooling system, closed deck design.
Plus that extra snail
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Does anyone know if the common crank hub failure in the s55 is fixed by now?? I know this was an issue before and I hope BMW fixed it and will be a non issue in the M2.
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