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More importantly, some of the S55 parts are interchangeable with the N55 ("The M GmbH's direct-injected S55 engine is derived from BMW AG's N55 engine, and some parts are interchangeable") so between the S55 and the M2's N55, there should be some nice OEM performance parts available for performance mods to existing N55 engines. |
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this car is just unreal.
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This car has some amazing potential! I for one am very excited, and this now changes my plans entirely!!
As already mentioned, its a mule. So we can't judge the looks. It uses an N55 in the same way that the 1M used an N54. Who cares? They don't want it steeping on the toes of its bigger brothers. And for this reason as well don't expect it to be extremely light weight. They'll be a weight reduction of course, but not as much as I'm sure we would all like to see. This car though will hopefully be what us purists have been waiting for! Don't get me wrong the M235i is a great car and in many cases it fits the bill well. And from what I've read the M3/M4 will be sensational. But this car could give us all of the M car thrills in a smaller package, just like the 1M which was a brilliant car! We shouldn't be judging it, we should be welcoming it! My only worry would be if they did something silly like making it DCT or Auto only. Offer both, fine. As long as there is a manual. But given that all M coupés previous only came Manual, I feel confident in saying there will be a Manual option. Let the countdown begin!!!
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Exactly. The 3rd party tuners have already shown that a simple remap can extract significant gains. Upgrade some components, e.g., intercooler, etc. and add a tune and 400hp is easily achieved.
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Oh my, the anticipation builds... since I currently own an E46, and have an F32 on order, I'm really looking forward to my 2017 birthday present: an EBII vert M2. though maybe I'll splurge for an individual frozen Liquid Blue with the saddle brown leather interior.
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I think there are plenty of hp gains to be had from the N55. Look at the type of power being produced by today's turbo engines. The 2.0L turbo engine in the CLA45 AMG produces 355 hp, the new S3's 2.0L turbo produces 296 hp, etc. The WRX, Evo, ATS, etc. are all not far from 300 hp from the factory. A few aftermarket components and a tune and they can easily surpass 300 hp.
Thus, manufacturers already provide cars with 150 to 180 hp per liter. So the N55 with a 3.0L turbo should be capable of producing 450-550 hp with the right tune and a few component tweaks. In addition, Burger, Vishnu, and Cobb have shown this is possible. |
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We know it is possible, better internals just mean it will lasts. The N55 is no slouch, look at the DINAN dyno-plots producing 380ft-lbs + of TQ from 1,500 ~ 5,400. We all know BMW M can do better^ with new externals & internals. It is NOT a question of how much horsepower, or torque.. the M2 has... it'll be about modulation and throttle response. (how they deal with induction/exhaust & lag). But seeing how the M2 is more of a track-orientated M, I suspect we will see special rims, lightweight components and a robust engine. With added cooling, tranny & new active suspension. But, a 3,300lbs car with 385ft-lbs of torque just off idle (1,250rpms) doesn't care what the horsepower meter says @ 7,000rpms. I rarely need to shift past 3.5k... I have a PPK2 & 3.08 final too. But as a token to how strong down low the N55 is, in the spring I often dig from a dead stop in 2nd gear... took a few mustangs this way. (These lightly-graveled Spring Michigan roads, make 1st pointless.) Last edited by w3rkn; 05-11-2014 at 11:07 AM.. |
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There will be no Individual for the BMW M2 or the 2er. The factory is not set-up to deal with Individual orders. There are dealers in the US submitting customer queries for Individual colours and interiors for the M235i despite being told it is not possible.
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