[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Added SOP for two more XM versions and some unknown very special M4.

According to my dealer, that one is the 50 Jahre celebration model NOT the CSL

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

According to my dealer, that one is the 50 Jahre celebration model NOT the CSL

Yes, it does look like something built for the occasion, and it's not CSL. I said "configured like the CSL".

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Yes, it does look like something built for the occasion, and it's not CSL. I said "configured like the CSL".

This puts me in an awkward position as I have put down a substantial deposit for a CSL. In essence though, I'd be looking for the manual transmission more so than the auto CSL (which as you've correctly pointed out is not a CSL)

Decisions decisions

[frankoh]

Originally Posted by xlover

Will it get the "pure version" of the S58 or a further upgraded B58?

I hope so! Always thought Z3 M was one of those

[Randy22]

Originally Posted by bayarea328xit

The 745ex and M750ex are now designated as having an S58 motor; previously the motor was B58. Is this a recent change?

https://bimmerlife.com/2019/02/16/bm...ix-powerhouse/

[Barathon]

ynguldyn

Do you have any insight as to what changes the M240i might get in the US for MY 2023?

I ordered a 2022 to be my winter car but it has been pushed so many times that I don't think I will even see it this winter and with a brand new G80 about to be in my garage it wouldn't get much use in the summer.

So I am trying to decide if I should just stick to the one I have on order or if I should wait and order a 2023 in time for winter next year.

If M Seats, M Seat belts and maybe a moonroof deletion option might be on the table then I would probably wait. Thanks

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Barathon

ynguldyn

Do you have any insight as to what changes the M240i might get in the US for MY 2023?

I ordered a 2022 to be my winter car but it has been pushed so many times that I don't think I will even see it this winter and with a brand new G80 about to be in my garage it wouldn't get much use in the summer.

So I am trying to decide if I should just stick to the one I have on order or if I should wait and order a 2023 in time for winter next year.

If M Seats, M Seat belts and maybe a moonroof deletion option might be on the table then I would probably wait. Thanks

Look at the top post, G42 08/22 option changes.

[Game]

Any idea when the G87 will be revealed?

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Game

Any idea when the G87 will be revealed?

The day after the embargo is lifted

[Tannay60]

Originally Posted by Mileschandler

I want to have one of these models of BMW in future

Yeah me too!

[mbanck]

One thing that isn't clear to me from reading the top post is the OS the M3/M4 will get between 7/22 and 3/23, can you comment on that and/or clarify the top post?

The M3 touring will get OS8 on launch, that kinda implies to me the M3 will get OS8 then (or more likely in 7/22 with the 3er LCI) as well; but what about the M4 (the 4er will get it in 3/23)? I assume BMW won't let M3 and M4 have different cockpits, so the M4 will get OS8 in 7/22 (or 11/22?) as well?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

One thing that isn't clear to me from reading the top post is the OS the M3/M4 will get between 7/22 and 3/23, can you comment on that and/or clarify the top post?

The M3 touring will get OS8 on launch, that kinda implies to me the M3 will get OS8 then (or more likely in 7/22 with the 3er LCI) as well; but what about the M4 (the 4er will get it in 3/23)? I assume BMW won't let M3 and M4 have different cockpits, so the M4 will get OS8 in 7/22 (or 11/22?) as well?

My records show the infotainment updates of G8x will be aligned with their base models, so yeah, different cockpits for the 8 month period between the LCIs of G20 and G22/G23.

The tradition of not applying the LCI label to refreshed M cars will hold here.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

My records show the infotainment updates of G8x will be aligned with their base models, so yeah, different cockpits for the 8 month period between the LCIs of G20 and G22/G23.

The tradition of not applying the LCI label to refreshed M cars will hold here.

Why don't they use the term LCI for M cars? Is that why the M8 is not officially an LCI? Or is it just too little of changes expected to be considered an LCI?

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by snareman

Why don't they use the term LCI for M cars? Is that why the M8 is not officially an LCI? Or is it just too little of changes expected to be considered an LCI?

The 8er doesn't have an LCI (at least so far) in general I think.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The 8er doesn't have an LCI (at least so far) in general I think.

It (whatever it is) is coming March 2023 SOP.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by snareman

Why don't they use the term LCI for M cars? Is that why the M8 is not officially an LCI? Or is it just too little of changes expected to be considered an LCI?

Perhaps not to piss off customers who had just bought one... or the fact that it's coming so soon after the introduction. The whole "LCI" designation is a little silly anyway; many automakers make subtle--and sometimes not so subtle--updates to exteriors and/or interiors between major model overhauls.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Perhaps not to piss off customers who had just bought one... or the fact that it's coming so soon after the introduction. The whole "LCI" designation is a little silly anyway; many automakers make subtle--and sometimes not so subtle--updates to exteriors and/or interiors between major model overhauls.

Agree on LCI being silly, 1) 99% of customers have no clue and if they saw the term LCI in a press release it wouldn't matter to them. 2) what an LCI used to be is far more blurred than ever. Tech is evolving and consumers demand change be faster. BMW has done far more "running changes" off LCI cycle in recent years. The most obvious that come to mind is the 5 and x3 getting the id7 dashboard lite before lci to ensure they stayed aligned with the rest of the lineup. I think we will continue to see more changes in flight rather than waiting for an lci cycle going forward. With the lone exception being consistent interior/exterior design refresh cycles

[Game]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Perhaps not to piss off customers who had just bought one... or the fact that it's coming so soon after the introduction. The whole "LCI" designation is a little silly anyway; many automakers make subtle--and sometimes not so subtle--updates to exteriors and/or interiors between major model overhauls.

BMW has surely never cared about this.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Perhaps not to piss off customers who had just bought one... or the fact that it's coming so soon after the introduction. The whole "LCI" designation is a little silly anyway; many automakers make subtle--and sometimes not so subtle--updates to exteriors and/or interiors between major model overhauls.

Customers don't know to be pissed off by the term LCI, assuming they even see that advertised as part of the new car. Most soccer moms and the like buying BMWs are not enthusiasts and don't follow what updates happen when. BMW and many other manufacturers do mid cycle improvements and we are 3 years into the 8 series so it's to be expected if you follow BMW at all. Sure there are small updates annually, but usually a slightly more moderate update halfway through the life cycle of the car which for some odd reason BMW calls LCI which as a term, life cycle impulse, certainly sounds dumb. My Jeep Cherokee got a nice improvement with an entirely redesigned headlight system 3 years or so into its life cycle but Jeep didn't decide to give it any dumb names.

[Stephan90]

Do you know what this could be? iX5? photo attached

[snareman]

ynguldyn On the M8s - I see that they are supposed to be upcontended starting with March builds. Are those car going to be 2023 models or still 22's?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by snareman

ynguldyn On the M8s - I see that they are supposed to be upcontended starting with March builds. Are those car going to be 2023 models or still 22's?

Traditionally, a refresh in March triggers a model year change.