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This video tells me that the prices will be going up in the next few years. Great video and a testament to the quality from a person that services the high end market.
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That's fantastic. You planning to test and tune both R1 and R3?
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Plus, with you doing all the hard work,I only have to turn the knobs a couple times. I'll get remote reservoirs to make sure those knob turns are easy Are you going to have axle lift on display at Mpact? Make sure you get plenty of video!
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Are you going to continue with a divorced setup on the CS?
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Bit of an update - we are in testing mode still but wanted to give some feedback on the stock setup. Our R3 setup is going on the CS so we do have the "pinnacle" of the F87 to compare against. As many know this particular test mule came to us as a 26 original mile unmolested beauty. We had to spend a decent amount of time knocking out miles just to get through break in (first time can say that about a 4 year old car ). After this was accomplished we went out to COTA to benchmark the performance aspect. At that point and combined with previous CS experience I feel like we had a pretty good understanding of the characteristics of the oem CS setup.
Ride manners/quality - the CS is an improvement over the previous two iterations. It still suffers from the same issues but to a noticeably lesser degree. It still relies on the dampers to control body roll too much thus creating the harsh/crashy feeling in high speed dampening events that we all know and love. This has been cleaned up a bit though with the CS but still definitely occurs over bumps & such. My comp Schnucki that is currently sporting a one of our traditional R3 kits but with 1000/900 lbs (rear coilover) springs to support the aero is more composed over these high speed event for comparison purposes. So there is certainly room for improvement still and again our focus first will be on the high speed. Performance - again the CS is an improvement on paper but still leaves quite a bit to be desired when pushed. The body roll is still significant as expected although a bit more composed towards the limit vs the previous trims. It actually felt more progressive than the other two which I attribute to the changes in dampening characteristics vs the other two (I was not a fan of this either). In the end though it still suffers from the same fatal flaws as the comp & OG. It is absolutely a very quick car but still very much limited from being undersprung and then relying on the dampers too much to compensate. Quite a bit of potential here to be realized with a better setup. Again this is just baseline observations before we started testing and not a CS/C/OG comparison. Just wanted to give a bit of background to show what we started with. More soon! |
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There is for sure. In street manners not quite as much as the comp due to the changes in the CS but still a significant amount to be had there. Performance even though the CS is a bit better I feel just as much room for improvement to be had. On the other thread - the questions you asked - do not fret about those. I will go into more detail late but these will not be areas of concern/issue. |
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05-23-2024, 10:31 AM | #101 |
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Do you have a target date that you are trying to hit? Also, I will be interested in the more street only kits. Will these be released at approximately the same time, or is the R3 the only one being worked on at the moment?
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When you same the street only kits - do you mean the Roadsport kits or a more road prioritized version of the electron R3? |
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I was looking for a more controlled (less busy) as well as complaint ride.
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Agree you would likely be more happy with the roadsport kit. For all we will do with the etron R3 we will still be on stiffer springs and that can be hard to overcome for some. There is an etron roadsport kit too by the way
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if it's of any reassurance to you, I've been running the OGSM Nitron R1 daily for the past 3000 miles on my E92, and even with the stiffer springs it's absolutely compliant and road-worthy (and handles highway-speed road issues even better than my OEM shocks) on softer damper settings, while being a lot tighter when pushed. I think the Roadsport kit (R1 with softer springs?) will definitely align with what you're looking for in terms of being a win/win for both control and compliance, and it only stands to reason that the eTRON would improve those further as well.
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I know you do not have a definitive release date. However, if you had to guess, do you thing we are looking at the end of the summer, end of the year, or something like next summer?
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Pretty spot on with the roadsport kit. It is the same damper as the R1 but valved accordingly with the softer spring set in mind. They also use the oem top mount so no camber plate is required (but can be added if desired). As such the spring design mimics the oem beehive style too. For the electron R3 we are sending them to Inertia next week for revalving based on our findings to this point. At that time we will be installing one of the roadsport kits on the CS and really putting it through it's paces. They are pretty solid out of the box but looking to see if there is any room to work there to enhance both ride quality and performance. The off the shelf kits are available now and by the end of next week I will know if we are even going to try to make any changes. If we do I expect those kits to be available by the end of June. The electron roadsport kits have not come in yet so I'm guessing those will be more towards end of summer for availability. Based on my experience with the electron R3 I would say it is worth the wait to see how the electron roadsport kit plays out though... |
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