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I pushed the one at PCD pretty hard and you could feel the car lean.. I have put probably 300 miles on the Eibach set now and feel like it has setled in a bit more and I have pushed it around a couple corners and the car feels like its on rails..
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Did about 15 kudos today on the Eibach springs. They are definitely a bit softer than the H&R and you get a bit more body roll. More comfortable, but more movement. Drop looks roughly the same, but I'll measure to compare after it settles.
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MechEE thanks for all the info also, gathering that comparison was great!
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Can anyone who has fitted Eibachs or H&Rs comment on roughly how much this costs to do? or how many hours of labour by a professional shop?
Is it a complex process to do? Or is a local compitent garage acceptable to carry out the job? Thanks |
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Super easy in my opinion. I installed by myself, and it took me about 3 hours.
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Other than cost why would I chose the Eibach springs vs. a HAS (DINAN or KW) vs. M Performance Coilovers since once installed and aligned we wouldn't normally raise or lower the car, correct? Or do we use the latter to fine tune the drop and corner balance the car?
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Having driven on both H&Rs and the eibachs what is your preference?! I would say mostly road driving for me Also....where can you get good quality 10mm spacers and do you need new locking nuts? |
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11-12-2016, 06:35 AM | #78 | |
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The car handles good stock so I didn't want to get away too much from that, just wanted to eliminate some fender gap. A full coilover set has many advantages, I ran a fully adjustable set on my track car and after you dial them in at the right height and if you do corner balancing further adjustments usually involve the dampening not the height. It's always going to depend on what each individual is looking for, so you will get different responses from each person. You need to ask yourself what is it that you want and then go from there with an option that will fill that need.
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MechEE sold his H&R set. That pretty much says it all as to his preference.
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11-12-2016, 10:43 AM | #80 |
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So I've had mine on about 2 weeks now and they are good, very close to standard and looks cool being that bit lower. One negative, it can make the back end a bit choppy, more so when you go for power and back ends squats down, If the road is uneven it will feel choppy.
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The H&R were stiffer than Eibach so the Eibach was the right choice for me. If someone drives more on smooth roads or wants the flattest possible response in turns, then H&R would likely be a better choice than Eibach for them. |
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That's exactly the same reason I am considering this (although I have no track car too!). I've never modified my suspension before and so when I read general articles about lowering springs vs coil overs, its always this big warning about using lowering springs...harsher ride, wearing out dampers faster, etc. On a mild drop, are those concerns somewhat insignificant? Also, is a 4 wheel alignment needed following an install of something like the Eibach's? Thanks
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I am in the same boat. I have never done it before
Are the handling characteristics along with 10mm spacers effected? Or will it be the same just cosmetically better and mildly more firm and flat in corners? |
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I am not concerned with my stock shocks on the M2 not holding up this drop since it is pretty mild. Regarding the alignment, my suggestion would be yes, anytime you change something like this an alignment should be done to ensure everything is in specs afterwards. Gives you piece of mind. Did one at the local dealer couple days after I installed.
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There were several arguments why I did modify my M3 e46 with Eibach ProKit (minus 0.8 inch on both axels): - Eibach are only little harsher than stock (less than 20%). At least the rear spring is slightly progressiv to be more compliant (as it is with the Eibach springs for the M2) - Given that stock dampers are already harsher with real Ms, it's a near perfect harmony of dampers and springs (in my opinion with M3 E46). I would never do a 1.2 to 1.5 inch drop with a standard BMW suspension setup as the ride would be bouncy due to far too stiff springs with rel. soft dampers. - No additional wear of dampers (I still ride my stock dampers on my M3 E46 with 80000 miles and dampers are still good) - Dampers with enough travel for lowering springs - With the M2 (even if cost would be no issue) I would prefer Eibach with stock dampers over M2 Perf. Coilover for 98 to 100% STREET DRIVING as off. M2 coilovers (springs) are said to be 40% harsher than stock. - Current adaptive damper systems are based on FIXED springs rates with variabel damping (either fix mode settings or actively adjusted based on driving conditions). Considering that spring rates are fixed, this is far more questionnable than a very slight change in spring rates with the Eibachs. - Front camber change is little (still within factory settings / as I prefer to drive corners hard I would appreciate fare more camber) with the moderate drop. All other alignment parameters can be adjusted but it is not a necessity as change is also very little. - AC Schnitzer, a (if not the most) respectable/reputable BMW tuner in Germany is using these Eibach springs (co-branding / techn. identical) for their stage 1 suspension modification (.. and not H&R and not KW..) Last edited by mmmpassion; 11-20-2016 at 04:19 AM.. |
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