[Makman]

Originally Posted by Artemis

It was suggested in the past that two types of M2 have been developed in a parallel fashion.

Quite some time ago, reference was made to BMW toying with the idea of a reworked N20 4-banger (N20 Technical Training) leightweight sports car featuring flared body panels and an agressive aero package.

The N20 idea may be off the radar again since quite some time. But let's not exclude the possibility of a more track-oriented version than the M2 base version (4-banger ?) already being in the works as we speak.

For the record and FWIW:

• "Although work has commenced on the "Downsized" M, The M2 or the replacement for the most admired 1er M Coupe.
  It is known as the "Downsized" M because BMW M are investigating the concept of a completely reworked N20 based four cylinder in terms of the successor to the 1M offering the same recipe as before but with lower weight but still offering the entry to M ownership with the key of precision rather than outright power."
  (http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=23 - July 2012)
• "BMW M2 Coupe - Successor to the BMW 1 Series M Coupe continues the same formula that made the last car be memorable, no huge competitor in the HP race, four cylinder will bring less weight, which matter most as does more enjoyment and overall feel is considered to be more of a priority than who has the biggest numbers. Already confirmed to be coming by BMW CEO.
  BMW M2 Gran Coupe - Baby Coupe inherits a four door brother and RWD, Direct competitor to the Mercedes-Benz CLA45 AMG. Scott26 shares that there are now firm plans for an M2 Gran Coupe."
  (http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...28&postcount=1 - March 2013)
• "Drop two cylinders of the Autoexpress article [i.e. 4-cyl. instead of 6-cyl.].
  BMW want the fastest four cylinder car in its segment. They also want the M2 to be the most progressive and dynamic car in its segment as well as the lightest performance car. They want a car that has a soul, unlike the Mercedes-Benz AMG A45/CLA 45 which are soulless to drive."
  (http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...77&postcount=3 - January 2014)
• "It looks as if they are investigating a more hardcore M2 having seen one at a test track, mixing aerodynamics of the Vision GT and the Racing but identifiable as the M2 but far more muscular and brutal than the standard M2. It could be for racing purpose showcase but I like to think of it as a potential rival to the Porsche Cayman GT4 and the first modern BMW "Batmobile" since the E9."
  (http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=45 - February 2015)

What I meant was, the base M2 is not likely to get its engine replaced because of 1 and 2. But if BMW will do another type of M2(M2 CSL, M2 GTS etc.) IDK. If they decied to drop a CSL/GTS Im ready to order one....LEL..

[Pparana]

Originally Posted by Makman

What I meant was, the base M2 is not likely to get its engine replaced because of 1 and 2. But if BMW will do another type of M2(M2 CSL, M2 GTS etc.) IDK. If they decied to drop a CSL/GTS Im ready to order one....LEL..

If the 2 series gets a new engine, m2 will not be far behind, we're talking a 30-40 hp tune, not a huge engineering feet over the stock n55. B series is already in production so I can't see the n55 sticking around for three more years.

[Makman]

Originally Posted by Pparana

If the 2 series gets a new engine, m2 will not be far behind, we're talking a 30-40 hp tune, not a huge engineering feet over the stock n55. B series is already in production so I can't see the n55 sticking around for three more years.

The M2 doesnt have a regular N55, thats the problem. Its N55 have been modified with parts from the M3/M4 engine. And im sure its not just a "plug in and play". It requiers testing etc. And If you think BMW will spend more money and time on a alrdy pretty budget M-car then the LCI will come with new mirrors aswell

they might ECU tune or modify(minor) the N55 futher rather than replacing it.

this is my guess

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Die ///M Rakete

Yeah ?

#2 @ Autobahn actually, but perhaps should talk to someone at yours.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

Why would BMW produce an M2 CSL,when they have already shortchanged a bunch of stuff on the M2.They are going to keep protecting the more profitable sales of the M3 and M4.It isn't going to happen IMO.

BMW new product strategy for M cars is as follows:

Base-> Competiton pckg-> GTS-> CSL

according to Scott26 (The insider guy)

[SW19]

Originally Posted by Powaup

BMW new product strategy for M cars is as follows:

Base-> Competiton pckg-> GTS-> CSL

according to Scott26 (The insider guy)

I appreciate the info he posts on here but he has been wrong about a bunch of stuff.

[cole3488]

This has been my least favorite thread makes me think about doubting my #1 allocation

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

I appreciate the info he posts on here but he has been wrong about a bunch of stuff.

And he's been right about a lot of stuff . So...

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

And he's been right about a lot of stuff . So...

Even a non-insider can make predictions about BMW and be right. It's not that difficult and BMW are fairly predictable.

Scott is a massive attention seeker and he likes to give the impression that he knows a lot more than he actually does. Believe him at your peril.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by mofomat

Even a non-insider can make predictions about BMW and be right. It's not that difficult and BMW are fairly predictable.

Scott likes to give the impression that he knows a lot more than he actually does. Believe him at your peril.

Thanks for the Public service announcement.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Thanks for the Public service announcement.

Oh reel your neck in sunshine. You have an opinion, and I have one. Deal with it.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by mofomat

Oh reel your neck in sunshine. You have an opinion, and I have one. Deal with it.

I did

[WAY]

Originally Posted by mofomat

Even a non-insider can make predictions about BMW and be right. It's not that difficult and BMW are fairly predictable.

Scott is a massive attention seeker and he likes to give the impression that he knows a lot more than he actually does. Believe him at your peril.

Lol. Do you really believe a global corporate like BMW would allow an employee to randomly post inside information to the world? Have you ever worked for a large corporate? Especially a German one? Everything Scott post is tightly controlled or at the very least based on very tight guidelines.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by WAY

Lol. Do you really believe a global corporate like BMW would allow an employee to randomly post inside information to the world?

No I don't, which is exactly the point I'm making. I am not saying Scott should post more accurate information; I'm saying Scott should just stop what he's doing and go away.

Scott likes everyone to believe (and he said so many years ago in fact), that being active on forums is all part of the "creative marketing", when in fact I think he's just a very enthusiastic employee who likes to give the impression he's more important than he is.

The idea that BMW would include an employee posting on forums as part of their marketing programme is laughable, yet Scott has said that is the case. What utter rubbish! He's just doing it in his spare time because he likes the attention he gets.

Originally Posted by WAY

Have you ever worked for a large corporate? Especially a German one? Everything Scott post is tightly controlled or at the very least based on very tight guidelines.

Again, you're missing my point. I'm not criticising for not posting enough info. I'm criticising him for posting at all.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Makman

The M2 doesnt have a regular N55, thats the problem. Its N55 have been modified with parts from the M3/M4 engine. And im sure its not just a "plug in and play". It requiers testing etc. And If you think BMW will spend more money and time on a alrdy pretty budget M-car then the LCI will come with new mirrors aswell

they might ECU tune or modify(minor) the N55 futher rather than replacing it.

this is my guess

The 2016 3 series got a new engine, the M3 is basically unchanged. I don't think they will change the M2 engine one or two years after the current engine was just reworked. Just a guess.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by Powaup

BMW new product strategy for M cars is as follows:
Base-> Competiton pckg-> GTS-> CSL

I have decided to wait a bit on ordering an M2... hopefully the LCI will include the option for a Competition Package. (I would love to see a GTS and/or CSL model for sale in the US, but I am concerned that even if this does come to fruition, it will be cost-prohibitive.) I would love to see an LCI/Comp pkg include:

• Manual seat option for US (if it's not already available)
• CF roof and/or any other weight-saving measures
• slight bump in engine performance
• option to spec M perf coil overs from the factory
• HU display
• LED lights
• more body colors
• and any other minor power train/suspension tweaks that may merit adjustment after thorough testing of the 1st gen models

(pretty much in that order, for me)

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by DVC

I have decided to wait a bit on ordering an M2... hopefully the LCI will include the option for a Competition Package. (I would love to see a GTS and/or CSL model for sale in the US, but I am concerned that even if this does come to fruition, it will be cost-prohibitive.) I would love to see an LCI/Comp pkg include:

• Manual seat option for US (if it's not already available)
• CF roof and/or any other weight-saving measures
• slight bump in engine performance
• option to spec M perf coil overs from the factory
• HU display
• LED lights
• more body colors
• and any other minor power train/suspension tweaks that may merit adjustment after thorough testing of the 1st gen models

(pretty much in that order, for me)

Someone was telling me that HUD is not possible with how the 2 series is built, the next best thing is the steering wheel with lights which I will be buying if I decide to get an M2

[cole3488]

Originally Posted by DVC

I have decided to wait a bit on ordering an M2... hopefully the LCI will include the option for a Competition Package. (I would love to see a GTS and/or CSL model for sale in the US, but I am concerned that even if this does come to fruition, it will be cost-prohibitive.) I would love to see an LCI/Comp pkg include:

• Manual seat option for US (if it's not already available)
• CF roof and/or any other weight-saving measures
• slight bump in engine performance
• option to spec M perf coil overs from the factory
• HU display
• LED lights
• more body colors
• and any other minor power train/suspension tweaks that may merit adjustment after thorough testing of the 1st gen models

(pretty much in that order, for me)

Do you have an allocation spot already? I've gotten nervous in getting mine right out of the gate and missing out.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by cole3488

Do you have an allocation spot already? I've gotten nervous in getting mine right out of the gate and missing out.

Yes, I do... but when it comes up, I'll just tell the CA to give it to the next person on the list until I'm ready.

[cole3488]

Originally Posted by DVC

Yes, I do... but when it comes up, I'll just tell the CA to give it to the next person on the list until I'm ready.

I've got a #1. Will ur ca let you keep deferring until ur 1st for the LCI ? And if you don't mind me asking where are u getting it at?

[DVC]

Originally Posted by Powaup

Someone was telling me that HUD is not possible with how the 2 series is built, the next best thing is the steering wheel with lights which I will be buying if I decide to get an M2

That may be, particularly with the current gen of HUD... but I seem to remember reading somewhere that BMW was planning to integrate a newer (simpler/smaller) version that's compatible with 2 series cars at some point.

At any rate, I plan on getting this <link> for my 335 in the mean time, which I can certainly use in the M2 down the road.

[DVC]

Originally Posted by cole3488

I've got a #1. Will ur ca let you keep deferring until ur 1st for the LCI ? And if you don't mind me asking where are u getting it at?

I have done this in the past, so I presume they would have no issue with this. I am working with Open Road/Roxbury BMW in NJ.