[Matt_B]

Originally Posted by skiiipi

but are you able to disable the rev match feature without disabling traction control on the M3/4?

F80 owner here, rev match is always disabled in sport+. No need to turn DSC off.

[W///]

Everyone bitching about auto-rev match.... who has driven a car with it? Just wondering.

It took me a second to get used to the ones I test drove, but I found them rather nice. Should there be an off button? Yes. Is it the end of the world? Not for me it isn't.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by W///

Everyone bitching about auto-rev match.... who has driven a car with it? Just wondering.

It took me a second to get used to the ones I test drove, but I found them rather nice. Should there be an off button? Yes. Is it the end of the world? Not for me it isn't.

I've never driven a car with it, but for me that is one of the most interesting features of the car. My main concern was just being able to get a MT in the first place, so I am content.

[atxsk8r]

Originally Posted by W///

Everyone bitching about auto-rev match.... who has driven a car with it? Just wondering.

It took me a second to get used to the ones I test drove, but I found them rather nice. Should there be an off button? Yes. Is it the end of the world? Not for me it isn't.

I test drove a M3 6MT few weeks ago and liked the auto-rev feature. It was one of the reasons why i wanted to get a manual (current car is DCT).

[W///]

Originally Posted by Verbiage

I've never driven a car with it, but for me that is one of the most interesting features of the car. My main concern was just being able to get a MT in the first place, so I am content.

Originally Posted by atxsk8r

I test drove a M3 6MT few weeks ago and liked the auto-rev feature. It was one of the reasons why i wanted to get a manual (current car is DCT).

It's really nice in some instances. I know it would definitely come in handy at the track. It bridges the gap to DCT a little bit.

[Verbiage]

If that's what it takes to preserve the manuals, then fuck it.



(Don't look at my sig).

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Strongbark

The electronic steering. Can we please go back to hydraulic steering for all M cars and leave the
e-steering for the rest of the line-up?

Seriously,,, welcome to 2016.

Next !

[Bmwhocr]

Originally Posted by W///

Everyone bitching about auto-rev match.... who has driven a car with it? Just wondering.

It took me a second to get used to the ones I test drove, but I found them rather nice. Should there be an off button? Yes. Is it the end of the world? Not for me it isn't.

Never drove auto rev, I assume you have to still press the clutch between shifts? It just blips the throttle when down shifting only correct?

[W///]

Originally Posted by Bmwhocr

Never drove auto rev, I assume you have to still press the clutch between shifts? It just blips the throttle when down shifting only correct?

Yes correct. I forgot a couple of times, so the car rev matched and I blipped the throttle on top of that. But it makes downshifting super smooth and easy.

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by W///

Everyone bitching about auto-rev match.... who has driven a car with it? Just wondering.

It took me a second to get used to the ones I test drove, but I found them rather nice. Should there be an off button? Yes. Is it the end of the world? Not for me it isn't.

+1

And if you're a "tracky" that worries about this, and if you turn off traction control undeservedly, you'll have the excitement of some unexpected mid-corner oversteer that will swiftly motivate you to master manual rev matching: lesson learned and problem solved. This will not be a consideration for the large majority of M-car owners that never see a track.

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

How did people do it back in the good ol' days of no tech nannies?

back than there was no "horsepower war" so much easier to control but now, hp/tq is off the charts

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by -JLT-

back than there was no "horsepower war" so much easier to control but now, hp/tq is off the charts

That's also true. But roadholding/tyres were also a lot worse than nowadays so many of our sporty driving ancestors without the nannies back in the days you won't find in retirement homes right now but already on the graveyard...for decades....

Reality bites, sorry.


Cheers
Robin

[miiipilot]

What about the mirrors, have we forgotten about the mirrors?

[TunedM2C]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Seriously,,, welcome to 2016.

Next !

Seriously...other current non-M models have hydraulic steering offered which is why I started the thread....

[///M2-PILOT]

Biggest negative.... We don't have the cars yet to confirm the reviews

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Strongbark

Seriously...other current non-M models have hydraulic steering offered which is why I started the thread....

It robs the engine of horsepower and efficiency.

EPS is improving at a very rapid pace.

Only kicking a dead horse /

[dmboone25]

The rev-matching is really cool with my PDK - it sounds awesome and adds to the experience IMO.

[-JLT-]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

That's also true. But roadholding/tyres were also a lot worse than nowadays so many of our sporty driving ancestors without the nannies back in the days you won't find in retirement homes right now but already on the graveyard...for decades....

Reality bites, sorry.


Cheers
Robin

true dat! tires make a huge difference

[SilverEmu]

Spoiled brats, DSC off is not going to kill you! All that power and torque are not going to explode in your face when you turn the engine on. Your right foot should be responsible here.

On a serious note - Would it be nice to have the option independently configurable - yes! Should we all bitch to death about if it's not - no! First world problems.

[Verbiage]

Originally Posted by SilverEmu

Spoiled brats, DSC off is not going to kill you! All that power and torque are not going to explode in your face when you turn the engine on. Your right foot should be responsible here.

On a serious note - Would it be nice to have the option independently configurable - yes! Should we all bitch to death about if it's not - no! First world problems.

Hey, I'm not a spoiled brat...........

[SilverEmu]

Oh, I know. EPS is crap, car is heavy, mandatory rev matches, butt is ugly, seats are crooked, engine is not bespoke, mirrors are not bespoke. The horror!

I think we should just relax. Get it in manual if you can/want, drive the crap out of it, be happy. They are not making cars the way they used to, let's just accept that. They will not go back to that. Hell, this might be one of the last manual cars we'll see around. Let's just enjoy it, all those shortcomings acknowledged! When all the hype calms down, I know I will.

Peace!

[eeghie]

Originally Posted by Strongbark

The electronic steering. Can we please go back to hydraulic steering for all M cars and leave the
e-steering for the rest of the line-up?

I've no doubt that in the near future engineers at Bosch, ZF, Denso and/or Aisin, will crack the next level of EPS feedback. When enough priority to this particular characteristic is given, it could certainly can feel as engaging for the driver as hydraulic steering. Until then, you have a valid point for the car that is meant to succeed the 1M.

Unfortunately I don't think the M division has enough power to reverse the Fxx-EPS direction that the mother ship has taken. Perhaps when the the LCI or CSL versions arrive, EPS technology will have improved enough?