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Are you guys seriously concerned about 150lbs? If so, start eating salads and drinking water. Most North Americans are overweight. I'm sure a lot of us can stand to drop 20-40lbs, some even more. I had my LCI corner balanced for a 200lbs driver...I'm only 6'1...no way I should weigh this much...180 is more reasonable. Much cheaper (and healthier) to lose a few yourself than swapping out body panels that won't be installed/painted by the factory. I realize it's not an option for all, but let's be honest...it's an option for many! |
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I'm certainly not the most technical guy, but curious how the power-to-weight ratios compare. I bet the additional output of the S55 should mitigate the added weight, somewhat..
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Good thing we can spend $6,000 plus to save 40 lbs on a hood, roof and trunk. And not even get close to the first gen. 40hp more compensates some for the weight, but enough? Really not sure about this car by comparison, I've been very hopeful. I start to realize why the Mc Laren 570s is such a cool car. About 3000 lbs and 560 hp. Granted, not in the same category. |
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USA Models M2 MT: 1,565kg / 275kW = 5.69 M2 DCT: 1,590kg / 275kW = 5.78 M2c MT: 1,633kg / 302kW = 5.40 M2c DCT: 1,658kg / 302kW = 5.49 |
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05-19-2018, 05:24 PM | #50 |
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Some of you are all so illogical. Who would spend many thousands to reduce 100-200 pounds?
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The most influential factor IMO is going to be the torque. Unlike the M2 which has 343ft-lbs and goes to 369ft-lbs with overboost, the M2c will have 406ft-lbs all the time. I'm as curious as the next person to see how the M2c delivers its power, but it's heavier. That's not good for handling, but they revised the suspension so really have no idea how that translates on track. We can do paper exercises all day long, the real test is seeing this thing put through its pace.
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But I want to do an ED next year, so I have to buy new. I think either is a win. As long as the CF bonnet and boot aren't too costly, I may do them, as much because I think they'll look awesome on a BSM car with the CF exposed as per the HS car. Plus weight savings too, but why not get best of both worlds. I am hopeful that with BMW's acquisition of that CF company (I think it was an acquisition anyway, not just a partnership) that they can/will put out CF bits a little cheaper than they have in the past. That said, I expect every major piece (boot, bonnet, each fender) will probably cost $1k. I think the biggest bang for the buck on this car though is going to be aftermarket or M-Perf exhaust. Save weight and fix the sound. I'm leaning toward the AA Signature setup, but will be interested in seeing the M-Perf exhaust, as long as it doesn't cost $6k like I think it will.
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Sorry, that's a must-have for a fun car for me. Cars are becoming less and less connected to the driver, so I like to maintain the deeper connectedness that MT gives you. Plus, I like the control over when it shifts. And before anybody says "but you can shift manually with a DCT..." just stop. DCT is still an automatic transmission. Even in manual mode, it will still shift automatically if you hit its mode-based shift points on the top or bottom end. DCT May be faster, and it's great tech, but at the end of the day, it's just a fancy AT with some degree of manual controllability (that it will override if it wants to). I'm not saying everybody should get MT, it's not for everyone, but for me it's the only way to fly (and yes, I DD A 6MT every day in my commute in stop-and-go Boston area traffic, and don't consider it the least bit burdensome - it's just part of the joy of driving).
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If we were talking about 300-400 more lbs is one thing but 150 is not much in my opinion.. How much does a full tank of gas do vs a quarter tank only
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I see redline on M2C is specced to be 7k rpms.. Wasnt it touted to have a higher redline than M2? I think M3/M4 is 7600 rpms
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I actually agree with you. I have always driven manuals and love them. I was just posting this to make the point that everyone complaining about the added weight has other choices, even in the same category of cars. I test drove the RS3 today and although I liked it. Big improvement for Audi but I know I would get bored driving it regularly. It's super quick but it's not engaging. I did like the steering and it is only 3340 lbs., so definitely lighter. Anyway, I am not super worried about the added weight. Lots of folks were complaining about how much the current M2 weighs initially and now those same people are saying how much lighter the M2 is than the M2C. It's just silly.
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150 extra lbs isn’t a huge deal but the current car at 3450 was already porky. I hope it doesn’t lose the great turn in with the extra weight in the front
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Yep.. Good catch!
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120 pounds / 3600 pounds = 3.33%. You won’t feel shit. If anyone needs to argue, you’re just some pretentious person that knows little about performance. If you care enough, target 10% weight reduction and skip out on all the luxurious amentities Last edited by boostspoon; 05-19-2018 at 09:09 PM.. |
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