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Buying a high performance car is - apart from the financial reality - a highly emotion-driven decision. BMW pro-actively approaching its existing clientele for an expensive model iteration (labeling and scheduling it as 'limited edition' because demand will be 'limited' anyway at the proposed price) = fishing in the pond where it finds most potential customers for this kind of car. Personally, I was also offered the chance to get an M2 CS, but no signed sales order materialized. No 'The Fox and The Grapes' ('sour grapes') attitude here. Just the personal reality-check - performed by temporary stepping out of the enthusiasm loop and pinching yourself - that there is a 'mismatch' between the car and the price-tag (M2 CS: the good, the bad and the ugly: design/looks, weight and price). Equally makes you realize that something else without such 'mismatch' better floats your boat (soon more about that ) + you don't mind making someone else happy to get an M2 CS. Back in 2015, Porsche US (PCNA) offered a right of first refusal to all those on the Porsche 918 Spyder VIP 'early access' program, allowing these privilege customers to secure a Cayman GT4 allocation ahead of the normal 'line' ("It is my pleasure to offer you, per your 918 Spyder VIP privileges, the opportunity to be among the first to acquire the new Cayman GT4."). PCNA offered them one week to decide and allocated the remaining US-allocated expected production to US dealers (source: here). Porsche Cars North America - 2015:
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Hm, judging merely by those figures, it looks like the M2 Competition - considering its setup and near freezing point test circumstances - wasn't particularly blown out of the water/ice by the better equipped and more powerful M2 CS pushed around the track in warm weather on hot asphalt.
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They will have near identical performance. This is purely a cosmetic and exclusivity purchase.
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"Worst car purchase I ever made: 2016 BMW M4 GTS, while its a monster car, the price fell out from under it, like most BMW's. Sticker price of $135,000 for a "limited run" M4 GTS of 300, did not help hold the value. I sold it with very low miles for $77,500. Many on ebay in mid $70's, now, that are essentially new. Make sure you like the M2, cuz there will be no re-sale market."
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What no one can seem to answer is the fact that BMW Blog took the weight of the M2CS and it tipped the scales at 3,377 lbs? How is this possible? How did they weight the car when the CEO said it weights slightly less than the comp? |
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That's why the M2 CS will come with Cup 2 tires. Will have a slight advantage over the M2 C.
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12-03-2019, 12:50 PM | #515 |
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We have seen info and posts on features available on the M2 CS which ain't available on the M2 Competition.
Here's what springs to mind about the opposite: available on the M2 Competition, but unavailable on the M2 CS:
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And the Adaptive suspension which helps corner better overall. But still does not answer why BMW blog has the M2CS curb weight at 3,377lbs or 1,532KG and the CEO is saying its about the same weight as the comp? I'm still trying to figure this one out.
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The DIN (EU) weight of the manual M2CS is 1550 (1625) kgs, identical to the manual M2C. That's what the CEO is referring to.
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Steel or aluminum roof?
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If consumers hold off and are smart - it will crash in price like the M3 and M4 CS and then become a good buy. Can't believe this thing will sell out for that money. |
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Let's do a realistic exercise. In an ideal situation one could just order an M2C with the stuff we wanted back when the CS/CSL was a fictional character. What would it cost to get the following (US reference frame)
M2C 6MT Exec pack CF hood CF roof CF trunk 763M wheels M-performance exhaust Tune M performance coilovers Bonus items, imo, on CS are M4C seats, upgraded leather, adaptive suspension. Carbon lip, diffuser, and decklid spoiler are wasted money. Extra power doesn't matter because that can be achieved with a tune. |
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it's not an allocation, just like that, it's been 2 years since I left a deposit for ordering the M2 CS, so I was the first in my dealership to order. In France there is only one vehicle per concession /// M
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6MT Exec pack 61606 includes mperformance steering wheel CF hood - 6440 CF roof - 3k est includes install CF trunk - 4280 763M wheels - 6460 - 800 for black M-performance exhaust - 4520 + install Tune - $1k est. M performance coilovers -2860 + install Without installation costs I come to $90,166. Some will say that you can get these parts cheaper after the fact. However, that eliminates the ability to easily finance the vehicle. One could reasonably assume you could sell the factory wheels to make up some cost. Please point out what I'm missing. |
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BTW, the M2 CS does not have a CF trunk Can you, for example, add $25K+/- worth of aftermarket parts to build a M2 C that would crush a stock M2 CS on a racetrack? Quite easily (with money to spare) Can $25K+/- turn a M2 C into an exact replica of the M2 CS with the same fit, finish, integration and warranty as the factory? Not so easy |
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