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Now you need to decide if you want to pull the front bumper cover and/or modify or remove the front brace prior to making your decision. Some require it, some don't. |
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On the street, I think it might be a great choice due to the claimed superior throttle response, and the less demanding needs. |
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03-04-2020, 11:10 AM | #466 | |
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Any data on pressure drop/throttle response? How modifications needed to install it? Running any sales? |
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03-04-2020, 01:03 PM | #467 | |
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The general consensus on my overheating issue is it is oil temp related, and will require some custom oil cooler work, similar to what the Tyspeed guys did. As for IATs, the Evo 2 Comp did perform better than the Dinan, even while I increased power significantly from Dinantronics to BM3 Stg 2H E30. If you run an Emix on track, the impact from any increase in IATs, including timing pull, is reduced. You can see this in the many 93 octane, 100 octane, and various Emix logs I've posted. So, I'm not willing to give up my better throttle response during the 75% of time I drive my car on the street, vs reducing IATs by 10F during the 25% of time I'm on track bc the impact of 10F when running an Emix really isn't noticeable. My interest in all this reemerged when the Evo 3 came out b/c it seemed to give the best of everything, but it apparently doesn't fit the M2 and I haven't seen any independent testing. If someone who's had an Evo 2 Comp could chime in independently regarding their experiences jumping to the CSF or VRSF IC's, and can show that they reduced IATs by an additional 20F over the Wagner during a 30-45-min 95F+ summer track day, and they can say subjectively that they don't notice worse throttle response when on/off the gas in stop & go traffic, then I'm all ears. Unfortunately, it sounds like I may need to be that guinea pig, unless a forum member can pipe up. Last edited by ZM2; 03-04-2020 at 01:16 PM.. |
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03-04-2020, 02:15 PM | #470 | |
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I agree, for the street it’s great. I’ve been looking for a new cooler and I don’t want excess lag myself, because I daily drive the car. But I personally can’t justify paying more for a less capable (in absolute sense) intercooler because of what may amount to an imperceivable amount of lag. Again, that’s just me. If it were major lag spikes (like I heard the CFS caused on the single scroll turbo that FaRKle! runs) yeah, I might be more inclined to lean in that direction. I’m just curious about this VRSF one now, because it’s on sale - and it’s god plenty of headroom for my needs. I hope to be tracking the car more frequently and don’t want to run into IAT issues. |
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CSF and ATM are the same - the difference is that ATM is the original and uses a single core and CFS is a ‘clone’ that is basically 2 cores put together. The CFS is said to have a bit more lag. FaRKle! tested them both, ask him for feedback.
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I'm noticing a trend for the necessity of a plug and play solution. I'll see if we can't get a M2 in here next week so we can properly scan the cavity and design a M2 specific intercooler for the folks interested in a mod-free solution.
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Whatever you ultimately decide to do, do yourself a favor and deal with a company that offers phone support. |
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03-04-2020, 04:02 PM | #481 | |
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I completely understand if your preference is phone support rather than e-mail but we're able to provide our customers with better service via e-mail. If phone support is your go to, we have over 250+ resellers in the US who do offer phone support |
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03-04-2020, 04:24 PM | #484 | |
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It would be days (week days) between correspondence and my vehicle was down during that time. You need to get a phone if you're serious about customer support. There's nothing worse than having your car down and waiting on an e-mail answer that may or may not come that day. It's extremely frustrating. None of your resellers can make warranty decisions so talking to them is a moot point. |
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