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I use HAWK DTC 70 for slicks and DTC60 for NT01. They have really high heat ranges, good modulation and pedal feel, just enough initial bite and are a great value. I get about 8-10 days.
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05-04-2018, 05:59 PM | #24 |
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+1 - Did Buttonwillow without a problem but took it to Laguna Seca (Hard on brakes anyway) and torched the pads and rotors with overheating and uneven pad deposits. LOTS of shuddering. 6K miles and new pads/rotors!
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05-06-2018, 07:23 AM | #25 |
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YMMV but just to throw my experience in this thread...I too had stock pads/rotors and after an event I got the shuddering and deposits that others speak of, but that went away after <1,000miles of driving.
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06-07-2021, 02:45 PM | #26 |
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Got deposits yesterday at Calabogie with the stock pads. Are they aggressive enough to clean the rotors? I use the car only for summer fun (i.e., spirited drives and track) so not too worried about noise, stop and go, winter, etc. They're available through my favourite shop and cheap, so I thought I'd ask before going with the Pagids... Cheers! |
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06-09-2021, 10:06 AM | #27 |
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I was talked out of the HPS by someone who knows a lot about this stuff. Said they are harder on rotors than other equivalent pads. I was never impressed with my HP Plus for Autox use, so I wasn't in a hurry to try HPS any how.
The m2 is heavy enough that I think a dedicated track pad is worthwhile. I find the stock pads to be inadequate on track. Swapped to Ferodo DS1.11 and AP R4 fluid and was really happy. But I would not use those pads on the street other than to/from the track. You might want to look at DS2500. Better than stock, but not a full track pad that will need heat to work. I found the DC2500 to work great year round even at 25-30deg F track cross events. Regardless, you should clear the pad deposits before you swap to another pad. Essex has some great videos on this. Basically you need to nearly do a bedding procedure, but not allow the pads to come up to temp to the point of leaving a new transfer layer. Essentially you just want to scrape the old layer/deposits off. Then you can swap to new pads and bed those in. You can even use that procedure to clean and then re-bed your brakes with a fresh transfer layer before events or if they develop a judder from unevenness in the existing transfer layer. https://www.essexparts.com/support/learning-center--faq |
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I ran pagid RS29Ls/Castrol SRF fluid on the stock M2C brakes and they felt good. Only issue was pad knock back, especially after chicanes that required a quick tap before really getting on the brakes for full power. Annoying...
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06-09-2021, 05:36 PM | #29 |
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Pagid RS29s. Hard to source right now, but they stop like the hand of God.
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06-13-2021, 10:39 AM | #31 |
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Always a bad idea to mix pads unless you know what you are doing and need to correct a particular problem. Dedicated track pads have higher COF and also COF temperature curves.
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06-14-2021, 05:14 PM | #33 |
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You need the EBC RP-X race pad. High coefficient of friction, very high temp range, no squealing, slow wear rate, nice on rotors. Pairs VERY well with Girodisc 2-piece rotors
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I did the Ferodo DS 2500 pads front and rear. Expensive but worked well at Barber. Also decent on street and no more noise than stock pads.
Although the real test will be Carolina Motorsport Park, which is hard on brakes.
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Thinking about using DTC60s with 285/305 Goodyear F1 Supercar 3 tires. (on a Camaro 1LE)
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Try DS1.11 or some more aggressive pads for track duty.
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I had good experience with DS1.11 but they were too expensive to run. I recently switched to Gloc R18 and R12 combo and had very good experience on my laguna seca track day (very brake heavy track).
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Gloc/Carbotechs are good. They don't leave uneven deposits, and have great fade resistance. But at least the R12 disappears in 4 track days when up front. Never used the 18. Curious how long they last for you.
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Ferodo DS3.12's
Great feel, rotor friendly, and now my go to pad after running Carbotech's & Porterfield R4's for over 20 years. Stunning stopping power and linear thru the entire heat range... I swap out to the 2500's for street use.
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That said I just ordered a set of Hawk DCT60 for the Camaro. Less that $500 a set, and supposed to last 6-8 days from what I hear.
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But yeah I liked using Ferodo in the past too, really good stuff.
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