[G8rGrl]

I don't know how much longer I can keep blaming "the camera". I don't like how the M2 looks in the video.

[ellekz]

Originally Posted by deemo319

The sound is actually pretty good. You have to realize it was started and reved in a photography studio.

If you listen to it without preconceived notions it doesn't sound flat, and that is with reverb echoing off the nearest wall and ceiling.

As you most likely know there will also be plenty of sound options available in a short time after release from seemingly thousands of "tuners" across the globe.

Down pipe, intake, x-pipe and exhaust system will give it more sound "character" to suit your ear.

But why do you have to heavily modify an M-car (sometimes beyond legal means) just to make it sound good? AMGs (even that 2.0 4cyl A45), Porsche, Audi RS (heck even the normal Audi S) already sound pretty awesome off the assembly line.

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by ellekz

But why do you have to heavily modify an M-car (sometimes beyond legal means) just to make it sound good? AMGs (even that 2.0 4cyl A45), Porsche, Audi RS (heck even the normal Audi S) already sound pretty awesome off the assembly line.

I don't particularly care if an Audi sounds good in stock form and is not a perquisite to the consideration to purchase a car.

Personally, I wouldn't consider a FWD-based car heavily modified to be suitable anyway.

The M2 may have a sound profile that is undesirable to some or possibly to a lot of people. But that really shouldn't be a deterrent to a RWD, manual transmission, fender flared, turbo charged, almost E46 M3-sized M car from BMW M GmbH now should it?


Not everyone wants a stock car. OEM manufacturers have multiple countries that they need to adhere to their noise and pollution requirements.

That is why the aftermarket exists, to offer products to consumers that want more. They desire more sound, more handling, more looks, more performance, more speed or just plain more of everything.

And yes, if one owns an Audi, Porsche or BMW there are an exceedingly large amount of aftermarket options to get ones car to look, sound, perform or handle the way they want it to.

The OEM+ M Performance exhaust and possible M Power Kit are conceived by BMW M to offer more (slight) performance without the risk to owners looking for more performance, while also adding peace of mind with a factory warranty.

And it is very profitable for them (BMW) to offer OEM+components instead of letting that owner go to the aftermarket and spend thousands of dollars on parts, and in most cases are unproven and untested parts.

[Lt1camaro]

Originally Posted by deemo319

Because not everyone wants a stock car. OEM manufacturers have multiple countries that they need to adhere to their noise and pollution requirements.

That is why the aftermarket exists, to offer products to drivers that want more.

And yes, if one owns a Porsche or BMW there are an exceedingly large amount of aftermarket options to get ones car look, sound or handle the way they want it to.

The OEM+ M Performance exhaust and possible M Power Kit are conceived by BMW M to offer more (slight) performance without the risk to owners looking for more performance, while also adding peace of mind with a factory warranty.

And it is very profitable for them (BMW) to offer OEM+components instead of letting that owner go to the aftermarket and spend thousands of dollars on parts, and in most cases unproven and untested parts.

The Moss Magnuson Act does not allow a manufacturer to give you warranty and then summarily take it due to parts the owner added.

The point he was trying to make is porsches, AMGs, audi S/RS already sound good from the factory in stock form, while you have to modify the more recent BMW's to make them sound good.

[cc3]

Originally Posted by ellekz

But why do you have to heavily modify an M-car (sometimes beyond legal means) just to make it sound good? AMGs (even that 2.0 4cyl A45), Porsche, Audi RS (heck even the normal Audi S) already sound pretty awesome off the assembly line.

Just taken delivery of a Cayman GT4. The exhaust on the GT4 is absolutely amazing makes my 1M sound very quiet! It is an incredible experience to drive. Still love my 1M but the GT4 moves the game on by some margin. Will be interesting to see where the M2 fits against such cars.

[Haslamhazza]

Check out at 2.40. It looks like the Rev and speedo are back lit in white. There was talk about it being red and many people being unhappy. Fingers crossed it is white

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by cc3

Just taken delivery of a Cayman GT4. The exhaust on the GT4 is absolutely amazing makes my 1M sound very quiet! It is an incredible experience to drive. Still love my 1M but the GT4 moves the game on by some margin. Will be interesting to see where the M2 fits against such cars.

Congrats on the GT4. My client didn't listen to me about getting one, since he has an order on the 991 GT3 RS and I made him get an M4 GTS!

Sound is completely subjective as are looks. The Cayman should have the sound to go with its its looks and purpose. But if it didn't that wouldn't stop people from buying one and it ultimately being sold out.

[Powaup]

limited production run?

[FilipMPower]

Originally Posted by X3paul

Bmw is light years away from porsche...bmw can not make an eps even if the world depended on...it does look good though

I'd agree, but saying the EPS is bad is not true, Audi has the bad EPS, BMW is at least second or third place behind Porsche, I cant think of a company with comaparable EPS to BMW except for maybe Jaguar which seems decent as well.

And I knew the sound wouldnt be good. Surely they could do the Jaguar-way exhaust for the M2 with insane pops and crackles, would fit with the aggressive exterior, but I guess no...

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Haslamhazza

Check out at 2.40. It looks like the Rev and speedo are back lit in white. There was talk about it being red and many people being unhappy. Fingers crossed it is white

I believe that in non-M Fxx vehicles, during the day the cluster is white and at night it changes to orange

[Haslamhazza]

Originally Posted by swagon

I believe that in non-M Fxx vehicles, during the day the cluster is white and at night it changes to orange

Yep your right. I got excited then. What does the m3,m4 do in the dark? Does that change to orange

[swagon]

Originally Posted by Haslamhazza

Yep your right. I got excited then. What does the m3,m4 do in the dark? Does that change to orange

Nope, stays white.

[Haslamhazza]

Originally Posted by swagon

Nope, stays white.

Well that's not right then is it. It should stay white

[Cope]

Originally Posted by cc3

What I don't understand is that if they really do intend to keep production numbers down, which I doubt, why not make it a bit more special. It just needs a bit more power, a bit less weight, a bit more noise,a better interior and a carbon roof, decent mirrors plus some wheel and tyre options.

Do we know what tyres it is coming on? Needs Michelin Cup 2's??

The M2 doesn't have decent mirrors? Decent mirrors?

That's an absurd choice of words. Since it's missing that adorable extra pillar thing that gives everyone a chubby does that mean these mirrors are inadequate at performing their actual purpose? They aren't even decent? I don't even

[Bols]

Does anyone know the OEM wheel sizes on the M2? Are these the same as the 437M or are they narrower?

[Ryan Bell]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

Can't believe people are still talking about this. Talk about cowards dying 1000 deaths. lol

Sorry is this a common subject? I'm quite new to this forum.

[deemo319]

Originally Posted by AustinYellowMakesMeHard

wait a few days until a new video of it revving outdoors comes out and people will be all over it again..

You are right on so many levels here. To me, people post comments as if the mirrors, sound or both are significant hurdles to consider buying the car.

Which makes them sound crazy, which means they are not serious most likely not getting one in the first place.

"A ________, _________and ________________ car sounds better stock and doesn't need thousands of dollars in hardware to sound good!"

I would add hardware regardless of how it sounds in stock form anyway.

Because I am particular how my car sounds, I would apply certain hardware to achieve my goal but I wouldn't compare another brand and its sound if I am looking at an M2.

For me it's the M4 bits, size and the damn thing has factory fender flares and not some horrific tacked-on junk is pretty reason enough to pull the trigger and get one.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by deemo319

You are right on so many levels here. To me, people post comments as if the mirrors, sound or both are significant hurdles to consider buying the car.

Which makes them sound crazy, which means they are not serious most likely not getting one in the first place.

"A ________, _________and ________________ car sounds better stock and doesn't need thousands of dollars in hardware to sound good!"

I would add hardware regardless of how it sounds in stock form anyway.

Because I am particular how my car sounds, I would apply certain hardware to achieve my goal but I wouldn't compare another brand and its sound if I am looking at an M2.

For me it's the M4 bits, size and the damn thing has factory fender flares and not some horrific tacked-on junk is pretty reason enough to pull the trigger and get one.

There are some people who are going to lease this car. Therefore hardware upgrades/mods are not possible for all of us. On the other hand, even if I was going to buy this car instead of leasing, I wouldn't mod it anyway. Again, some people like to keep their car stock. So, it's pretty damn normal that some of us expect a stock M car to sound at least as good as its competitors.

[Xtabi]

Originally Posted by deemo319

I don't particularly care if an Audi sounds good in stock form and is not a perquisite to the consideration to purchase a car.

Personally, I wouldn't consider a FWD-based car heavily modified to be suitable anyway.

The M2 may have a sound profile that is undesirable to some or possibly to lot of people. But that really shouldn't be a deterrent to a RWD, manual transmission, fender flared, turbo charged, almost E46 M3-sized M car from BMW M GmbH now should it?


Not everyone wants a stock car. OEM manufacturers have multiple countries that they need to adhere to their noise and pollution requirements.

That is why the aftermarket exists, to offer products to consumers that want more. They desire more sound, more handling, more looks, more performance, more speed or just plain more of everything.

And yes, if one owns an Audi, Porsche or BMW there are an exceedingly large amount of aftermarket options to get ones car look, sound or handle the way they want it to.

The OEM+ M Performance exhaust and possible M Power Kit are conceived by BMW M to offer more (slight) performance without the risk to owners looking for more performance, while also adding peace of mind with a factory warranty.

And it is very profitable for them (BMW) to offer OEM+components instead of letting that owner go to the aftermarket and spend thousands of dollars on parts, and in most cases are unproven and untested parts.

Fear not everyone!

I read a million posts, and listened to a bunch of videos, on how bad the M3 sounds while waiting for mine to get here. I got the car a couple months ago and did the valve mod.

I think it sounds absolutely amazing. Angry, growly, and mean. It crackles and pops. I could not be more happy with it.

Until hearing it person, yourself, you should not worry.

Either way I'm sure it will be an amazing drive!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by cntzl

It doesn't sound as good here as it did in other videos.

Maybe because the bloody engine is still cold.

[Tag]

The sound of a car revving while in park is not a good indicator of what it sounds like. You need to engage it into gear and go WOT, the sounds is dramatically louder and different in every way.

As far as everyone still on the "wish it had this... and that... and what not"; it is what it is. It will be over $10k less than the M3/4 and BMW didn't think it was profitable to add more stuff for reasons they only know. Get use to it and accept the car for what it is or go look elsewhere.

[technik330]

This car isn't going to please everyone anymore than it would apologize to anyone, because it doesn't need to.

I've got to include myself in this, largely because I'm not shy when it comes to speaking up, but we've really got to stop bitching about what this car 'doesn't' have anymore.

We've literally beat the mirror convo to death, M3adjuster - don't swat me bro, and a long list of other items about the M2.

Personally, I'm going to wait to see what the LCI M2 brings; I don't expect a significant set of changes, but if I'm leaving no car payments land it'll have to be for a damn good reason.