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      05-14-2018, 06:17 PM   #287
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The reason the brakes are Red for M Performance also is for pure profit.. With the Non-M BMW line; when the Red, Orange and Yellow calipers where released, every one on the other forums where hyped and ready to rip off their blue M Sport calipers and replace them based off sheer appearance (color), even though they're the identical set up, just red..

I don't blame BMW; if suckers are buying it, then I'm selling it! I would offer the calipers in hot pink and baby blue, if I thought I could move them...

You can't argue with the Free Market..
BMW could offer whatever color people wanted when they ORDER their car if they wanted to make more money.

Yea, you right, it's not about profits or their bottom line.. What 'business' does that silly stuff..

BMW got nothing better to do than to mess with us..

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I’m sure with any M car, buyers would like multiple caliper color choices. Any German brands actually do that?
BMW - see post 260 - orange.. yellow.. red..
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BMW - see post 260 - orange.. yellow.. red..
What M model can you spec your build with any color?
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What M model can you spec your build with any color?
one question at a time..


first you said " multiple caliper colors "

then you changed it to Any color.
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one question at a time..


first you said " multiple caliper colors "

then you changed it to Any color.
Exactly
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one question at a time..


first you said " multiple caliper colors "

then you changed it to Any color.
What M model? Waiting?

Answer is none.
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haha! Great to see the Civic moniker carried over from M3post to this part of bimmerpost.
I got it, so basically M2 Competition is the launch of the "new" M2? Basically, this is not a LCI model
M2 Competition: too many changes for another M2 LCI and not enough changes for a second generation M2 model. But it is considered as a new M2 model, not an 'M2 with a Competition Package' (unlike a ZCP, the M2 Competition got its own 'Typschlüssel'). And with the new set of M Performance Parts you can customize it more. But then again most of those new M Performance parts also fit on the oldskool M2.

Brief: a bit like the Facebook relationship status "It's complicated".
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What M model? Waiting?

Answer is none.
asked and answered...

one can spec *a* brake color on nearly any M car .. . Silver or red (in different ways) or original blue for M2 comp for example... and gold for M3 or M4..

And of course fashion colors are also available from M performance as indicated in post 260

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BMW - see post 260 - orange.. yellow.. red..
But can you get those for an M car?

I thought that those were only available for the regular series cars...but I might be wrong.
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M2 Competition: too many changes for another M2 LCI and not enough changes for a second generation M2 model. But it is considered as a new M2 model, not an 'M2 with a Competition Package' (unlike a ZCP, the M2 Competition got its own 'Typschlüssel'). And with the new set of M Performance Parts you can customize it more. But then again most of those new M Performance parts also fit on the oldskool M2.

Brief: a bit like the Facebook relationship status "It's complicated".
So the new M2C is a transgender teen looking for a post-op partner teen, but doesn't want to get too serious?
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BMW - see post 260 - orange.. yellow.. red..
But can you get those for an M car?

I thought that those were only available for the regular series cars...but I might be wrong.
The mounting points to hold the caliper to the body is different because it's made for a 370mm vs the M2's 380mm rotors.
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So the new M2C is a transgender teen looking for a post-op partner teen, but doesn't want to get too serious?
It’s even more complicated than that.
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So the new M2C is a transgender teen looking for a post-op partner teen, but doesn't want to get too serious?
No, let's leave gender out of the equation.

He's the M2 Competition, the L.A. concession, local boys will spend a quarter just to shine the Hockenheim Silver bowl. Looking good, he's a crowd pleasing man, one on one, he's schoolyard Superman, crashing the backboard, he's Jungle Jim again...

...but according to an old Bavarian legend, he has a more powerful evil twin-brother chained somewhere inside a Black Forest batcave.
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asked and answered...

one can spec *a* brake color on nearly any M car .. . Silver or red (in different ways) or original blue for M2 comp for example... and gold for M3 or M4..
What do you know, you just described brake packages for certain M cars. Not picking from multiple caliper colors.
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And of course fashion colors are also available from M performance as indicated in post 260
Not for any M car.

$100k+ M5 Comp doesn't have caliper colors to choose from...why would then someone think a sub $60k M car should have it? Like I said no other German brands offer it, not on RS Audi's or AMG Merc's. There is brake packages and whatever color they come in.
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But can you get those for an M car?

I thought that those were only available for the regular series cars...but I might be wrong.
You are correct. Not on M cars. They are for base F30 models.
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What do you know, you just described packages for certain M cars. Not picking from multiple caliper colors.

Not for any M car.

$100k+ M5 Comp doesn't have caliper colors to choose from...why would then someone think a sub $60k M car should have it? Like I said no other German brands offer it, not on RS Audi's or AMG Merc's. There is brake packages and whatever color they come in.
I do wish it matched the two interior colors. I would have preferred blue to go along with the blue on the interior, or make a red stitching option. The red brakes look great, FWIW, but if offered in blue at the new size I would get those for the above reasons.
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I do wish it matched the two interior colors. I would have preferred blue to go along with the blue on the interior, or make a red stitching option. The red brakes look great, FWIW, but if offered in blue at the new size I would get those for the above reasons.
Probably why they have the upgraded brakes in silver as they go with both interior choices. I prefer the silver over red, like you said you then need a red interior. Blue is ok, but not a fan of it with orange color cars.
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Shmee just did a piece on this (video here).
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Shmee just did a piece on this (video here).
Poster @MR. is Mark in the video.
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It will be interesting to see what kind of access Shmee gets Mark(or Shmark), during this whole ordering process. Shmee seems to have some good BMW contacts.
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2NH comes standard on Canadian cars. I assume it's because our market is smaller. Its the same when I ordered my focus RS. all options were standard including winter wheels and a car cover. :/

Well, if any M2 owners want grey calipers, .. Let me know.

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The factory won't install the red brakes on your car. They can install the optional silver ones (2NH).

If you want the red calipers: skip the 2NH option when you order your car (the car will come with the blue stock brakes) and order the M Performance red brakes. These are the same brakes as the optional silver 2NH, except for the housing color.
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"After you grind your vehicle, rust is your best friend."

thx mate, this powerful statement pretty much help me make up my mind to go with sunroof instead
Good call. Rather have a sunroof and factory installed than playing around.
And to be honest, the weight savings are not that amazing to see that big of a difference.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see problems with people starting to ask questions when the windshield frame will start to leak or show rust (one of the most prone areas to rust anyway). The anticorosive bath is efficient and works as long as you don’t touch that layer and you don’t expose the metal. Once that is done (as you can see in the video), you have no protection at all. Even the smallest drill is prone to rust even if the water will not go in; the roof is one of the most exposed elements to moisture due to the cabin/exterior temperature differences.

For that money, every element that is not “plug and play” should be installed by the factory.
I am convinced that problems will apear and BMW will pay a hefty price to get this lesson.
I just hope that our voices will be heard...

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