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love them or hate them, I don't care, but spare me the drama about how bad they are and how they now cost more per mile than a gas car |
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You dissed a study (more than just a little bit) and used an article with glaring journalistic and methodology errors in it as if that somehow makes your point for you. Like using violence to protest violence, it's illogical. if my studies are bad, use good ones to debate them. If I make a point cite some data, counter it directly rather than skipping it or making some tangential maneuver. If the data is bad, disprove it. Your links didn't address some of the key data - at all.
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then you would realize the brake pads last much much longer on an EV than regular brake pads on gas cars... only one of us keeps defending a completely flawed study that has been easily picked apart by the simplest of measures It isn't rocket science and Tesla's aren't the fastest selling cars in America for their looks ...People like saving money more than saving the planet If you really actually believe that study and that ICE vehicles cost less per mile than EV's...we're done here. I can't help you |
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“EV are awesome to me” wtf are you on ? I have no idea what you are talking about & clearly neither do you. I strongly dislike the whole EV scene & was endeavoring to gain more knowledge as to the whole EV conundrum, which you would have gathered if you’d watched the video or bothered to read any of my posts. Your clearly in way over your head & a waste of my time, go away you silly little man.
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My god how did I get into a conversation with this fool. Please go populate another thread 🙄.
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Have you ever even driven one? I don't know if I would want it if it was my only car, but as a daily driver it would be perfect...I would highly recommend actually driving one before just simply dismissing it. Not all EV's were created equal |
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I do agree that I’m not ready to fully commit to an all ev fleet for myself but NOTHING beats an ev for a daily. That was the sole reason why I got my long range. Like it’s the fucking greatest lol. Imagine dailying a plaid. My god lol
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In my experience, my friends and I, I think that is about right +/-. And if one is comparing ICE vs EV with high milage, one must figure in the cost of EV battery replacement.
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You don’t replace the battery. That’s like saying we have to figure in the cost of an engine replacement. They both should last the “useful life” of the vehicle. Some won’t and those are bad designs.
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The average person driving a Prius to 250k probably spent less in maintenance at a Toyota dealer, than he did doing his own BMW maintenance in his garage.
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It is laughable to compare them to the lack of reliability of a typical ICE. MTBF comparison would be pretty amusing. |
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If Check this link: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre....226436/page-9 there are several examples, by late page 4 it gets interesting. It seems electric motor coolant and electric motors / electronics don't make a good combination. I never learned that is any of my EE classes [/sarcasam] There was a whole class of tesla motors that were shit: https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/I...y-60-000-miles Early Tesla Model S motors have had reliability issues. Now, a new analysis of data provided to Plug-In America by 327 owners of early Tesla Model S cars suggests that as many as two-thirds of those early Model S drivetrains will need to be replaced within 60,000 miles. There are plenty of other examples, though I'm sure you didn't look. Here is an interesting headline: Dragged down by Tesla, EVs least reliable cars on British roads https://driving.ca/column/motor-mout...nes-says-study Last edited by chad86tsi; 01-27-2023 at 04:23 PM.. |
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google searech the term "tesla reliability", lots of hits and data.
This one was interesting given recent discussion about low cost to maintain EV's: https://jalopnik.com/advisor/tesla-maintenance-cost/ According to RepairPal, the average Tesla maintenance cost is $832 per year. That compares to an average of $652 per year for all car models sold in the United States. Depending on which services your Tesla needs, you may end up spending much more than the average car owner on yearly maintenance needs. It gets way, way worse for EV's when you are out of warranty. You can read the reports, look at the data, crunch the numbers, or you can just believe whatever you want and ignore facts. I'm not here to tell anyone what to believe. |
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I also question these sources. I know 3 people with early Tesla Model S over 80k miles and none of them have had any drivetrain issues. There is no way 2/3rds of them require motor replacement after 60k. That was a 2015 article, how about following up in the real world? Like everything else you post in this section, it's misleading and totally disingenuous. BTW, that thread also shows a few guys rebuilding them which you said was impossible a little while back. |
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Come on man, Do research before you post https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...ailure.256629/ The first link in post 324 was from 2021, it was follow up of the issue written about in 2015. It's real, it happened. |
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