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I'm just sitting here reading the opinions going back and forward. Every person that says they will pass gets me a little more excited at the hopes I can get my hand on one! Any suggestions to make sure I can get one in South Florida besides giving the manager at the dealership fellatio?
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Main factor will be how it drives of course but it's gonna be hard letting go of all the gadgets I got used to in the M4
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My thoughts exactly. I must say my mind is all over the place car-wise though, because I am also interested in a C7 and the new GT350. Before people say the M2 is not in the same class as these two cars, keep in mind not everyone cross shops cars in the exact same class. What puts these three cars on my short list is they are all powerful RWD coupes with a manual transmission still available and are in a similar price range. I always toy with the idea of picking up a used Z4 M Coupe too...
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07-29-2015, 12:27 PM | #224 | |
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07-29-2015, 12:31 PM | #225 |
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Was it confirmed that the car will have LEDs? or will we have to wait for an LCI/ZCP for that?
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Take my word for it, you won't miss all the gadgets. My E92 is fully loaded. It has CA, Nav, upgraded sound system, heated seats ect... my E36 has literally none of that. And even the few comfort creatures it has don't work The driver side window stopped working, the passenger side door actuator doesn't work. The remote stopped working, so I have to unlock the door the old school way with the key. Doesn't have heated seats either. Guess what? None of that matters. It's just a really fun car! That's why I'm completely cool with going with a stripped out M2. Really the only thing I miss in the E36 that the E92 has are the Xenons. The halogens freaken suck.
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- Z4M: Love that car, and it's an appreciating asset. But the whole idea of buying a new car was so that I can have a warranty on one. I'm tired of maintaining these cars and would like a little break - GT350: Straight up, it's too big of a car. I refuse to buy a coupe that's even bigger than my E92. Absolute deal breaker - C7: I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with the interior. Good looking car. - Cayman S: Love it death. Out of my budget new. The M2 just ticks all the right boxes for me. Right size, hopefully right price (below 55k for a stripper), more than enough performance, 6MT, RWD. But most important, FUN.
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07-29-2015, 12:38 PM | #228 |
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I wonder if they are going to rework the instrument cluster to include a temp gauge, maybe instead of fuel consumption/regeneration meter... there isn't room for a dedicated temp guage in the 2 series cluster.
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I don't fully agree with this. I miss the HUD as soon as I'm in another car, it is an awesome thing that should be available in all (M) cars. Most of the other stuff is easier to live without though.
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In the past, that's exactly what BMW have done. For example, in the 1M and the E92 M3, the oil temp gauge is right where the real-time fuel economy gauge would have been. In the E92, at least, you can't even see real time fuel economy. I assume this is because "you really don't want to know" lol.
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You can kind of see the cluster in this pic, and it doesn't look like there's an extra gauge towards the right. Hopefully they get rid of that worthless MPG gauge and have an oil temp gauge instead Quote:
In the M3 for example (in the US anyway), to get HUD, you need the Executive package. I like HUD, but not for $4300. It's not a deal breaker for me anyway, as most of you guys can tell by now
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On the bigger models it is a stand alone option on cars in most of Europe (around €1k) and is definitely worth it. But not $4300 if you don't want the rest. |
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no one said for anyone to start adding expectations to the car.. if anything... I try to temper expectations to what is REAL.. and even provide INSIGHT as to why the expectation won't be met. A whole better than you will get directly from BMW.. LOL. and no different than the people adapting renders to see what panels might be under.. etc.. It's this passion that also let me to ACTUALLY OBTAINING A 1M ALLOCATION....,something I am already betting will not be easy for the M2. Quote:
And the funniest part of all is that there is an ABSOLUTE BLUEPRINT for the M2 in the 1M.... but yet most keep hoping against hope.. So far.. the only major changes to this car from the 1M are the following - option for DCT - anticipated option for moonroof - no orange , you get blue instead... and an extra gray.. Really not even gonna count the N55 in any way because it's the same blueprint as what they did with the N54T... still waiting on it it gets twin turbos or single.... and it gets twin turbos... then it totally becomes like the 1M design.... the single turbo is what made the N55 less powerful Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-29-2015 at 02:15 PM.. |
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It will be interesting to see the final product, which may prove that level of speculation and dampened hopes all for naught, but as it stands, the M2 as great as it might be is going to have the middle child syndrome - not as special as the first, and always living in the shadows of its older siblings. BMW doesn't seem to have aspirations about making this car stand out on its own, but we shall see...
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Agree with you about it not being illogical to think or hope... ... however don't ASSUME... because that certainly becomes illogical if you don't take into account actual history. Hint.. you might notice me doing that.. Quote:
Same could be said about the E36 M3... A car that came to the US with no " individual throttle bodies " etc etc.. and people said wasn't a " REAL M3" (myself included... yes.. I was an elitist E30 M3 owner... but I've learned... and bought a " parts bin " car myself... and it's AWESOME. doesn't matter the seats only came one color.. doesn't matter if there were only 3 exterior cololrs doesn't matter that it didn't get a CF roof, no DCT.. no sunroof.. etc.. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-29-2015 at 02:31 PM.. |
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translation : in your mind you felt that there was more work to be done.. did you ASSUME because of the short time frame that the 1M wasn't as BMW wanted? What exactly did BMW AG say they wished they could have done better? Whose term is that the 1m was a " rough sketch"? When did BMW AG announce or promise that they would do anything differently than the 1M ? Who or what has caused your " disappointment" that they did not finish the " rough sketch" . |
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once again... A clear ASSUMPTION here that BMW wants to sell as many as M2 as possible.... which.. they don't. Sheesh! Quote:
This is a low volume car. Just like Porschephiles say that Porsche holds down the Cayman/Boxster... BMW is doing the same.. they do not want to sell more M2 than M3/M4... just like Porsche wants to sell more 911s than Cayman/boxsters.... they just go about it slightly differently.. It's not like this is a hidden strategy.. look at every single sales month that's posted here... BMW wants to sell 3/4 series as their highest volume vehicles... ... followed by 5 series... and then X vehicles... not 1/2 series.. Quote:
Bottom line is the Leipzing plant just barely managed to squeeze out the 1Ms it did. That plant will have similar or LESS capacity if the new generation X1 continues to sell like the current one... that or the plant will have to go 24/7.... When the 1M was being made the plant was two shifts with a 3rd shift for the paint booth... So... And even if the plant can go 24/7 on vehicle production... they still can't keep up with paint.. hence.. LIMITED PRODUCTION. Oh yeah... and they also want to bring out an X2 some time... guess where that will likely be made... Bemo... you have the WHINE.. I just gave you the cheese.. sorry it's Limburger.. I'm just saying... get in line now if you want an M2... you'll thank me later! or... quit whining and go get an M3/M4. those who want unique colors for the M2... .. . check out the M3/M4 ...any new colors introduced on that model yet? Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 07-29-2015 at 03:00 PM.. |
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I have an e9xM and real time MPG is easily visible through NAV. Even without a NAV , MPG is available on the E9xM. And yes, I do want to know. And, what I find out makes me admire the car even more. Oooohhh that V8 sound is soooo special. |
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