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      07-03-2020, 09:51 PM   #2311
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      07-04-2020, 12:39 AM   #2313
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Installed carbon fiber mudflaps (front) from IND along with the M Performance pedal set. Very happy with both. The mud flaps greatly decreased the debris hitting the rear fender flare. This was an issue since installing spacers.

The M Performance pedals should have come on the car from the factory. They really stand out.

Can I ask you how to remove those two pesky little plugs on the fender liner? I tried for 10 mins without any luck. Are they one time use?
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      07-04-2020, 03:02 PM   #2315
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Installed carbon fiber mudflaps (front) from IND along with the M Performance pedal set. Very happy with both. The mud flaps greatly decreased the debris hitting the rear fender flare. This was an issue since installing spacers.

The M Performance pedals should have come on the car from the factory. They really stand out.

Can I ask you how to remove those two pesky little plugs on the fender liner? I tried for 10 mins without any luck. Are they one time use?
One time use. Push in center, then pull out outer plug.

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I need some advice

Car is a cream puff just 2550 miles, I had it since February 2019 (garaged) 99% of the time but one of the few days it was out a fU**ing tree branch fell during a T storm

Not sure if painless dent removal is possible because it's so close to the crease?!? and if it is possible how good will the results be?

Possibly a carbon roof is in order, this BS just gave me a reason, likely $3k'ish parts/labor I'm guessing

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Delayed another day. It's in some fedex home van in some person's driveway.

I had to reinstall the steering wheel to go in for break in service tomorrow but at least I have the red M buttons in. Felt like 50 more HP.

FedEx finally admitted today that they don't know where my steering wheel is.
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Finally got around to do the carbon air filter delete
I'm looking for more info on this. It's just a volume thing, right? Maybe a few hp?
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Finally got around to do the carbon air filter delete
I'm looking for more info on this. It's just a volume thing, right? Maybe a few hp?
They're quite restrictive, and I believe in US/NA cars only?

The guys at Carbahn (Steve Dinan) say that's the first thing they pull out when they start working in a car.

Supposedly, it frees up a surprising amount of hp.

Since the M2 got "crippled" by BMW in the intake and cooling catalogues, they went away when I got the flash tune.

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They're quite restrictive, and I believe in US/NA cars only?

The guys at Carbahn (Steve Dinan) say that's the first thing they pull out when they start working in a car.

Supposedly, it frees up a surprising amount of hp.

Since the M2 got "crippled" by BMW in the intake and cooling catalogues, they went away when I got the flash tune.

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Got it, thanks. I'm guessing this is M2C only, and not M2, correct?
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Finally got around to do the carbon air filter delete
I'm looking for more info on this. It's just a volume thing, right? Maybe a few hp?
They're quite restrictive, and I believe in US/NA cars only?

The guys at Carbahn (Steve Dinan) say that's the first thing they pull out when they start working in a car.

Supposedly, it frees up a surprising amount of hp.

Since the M2 got "crippled" by BMW in the intake and cooling catalogues, they went away when I got the flash tune.

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In what way is the intake crippled? Carbon filters are an emissions requirement. If you can show me where the S55 in the M2C is pulling timing because of IAT temps I'd love to see it.

The S55 cooling system is extremely robust. It can pound around a track all day no problem. There is zero need to upgrade the cooling for a street car.
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Yes exactly. Won't be any noticeable change except it's an easy enough job that psychologically I feel healthier knowing my engine can breathe at its maximum
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Carbon filters are an emissions requirement.
So are cats... What's your point? The comment was about modifying the car for more performance not better emissions compliance... Most of these things do indeed "cripple" the cars performance because that's the point.
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I need some advice

Car is a cream puff just 2550 miles, I had it since February 2019 (garaged) 99% of the time but one of the few days it was out a fU**ing tree branch fell during a T storm

Not sure if painless dent removal is possible because it's so close to the crease?!? and if it is possible how good will the results be?

Possibly a carbon roof is in order, this BS just gave me a reason, likely $3k'ish parts/labor I'm guessing

Edit: happy 4th of July everyone 🇺🇸 💥
Man that sucks. A skilled PDR tech should be able to do that. However, I have learned that not all have the same skills. Anyway, all PDR shops I have been to do not charge if you are not satisfied. So I'd give it a shot. If it is not to your satisfaction, I would certainly go for a carbon roof.

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Carbon filters are an emissions requirement.
So are cats... What's your point? The comment was about modifying the car for more performance not better emissions compliance... Most of these things do indeed "cripple" the cars performance because that's the point.
You are missing the point. BMW didn't intentionally include them to 'cripple' performance, they are an emissions requirement. Removing them doesn't magically release significant HP, but happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence to hand. My comment was aimed at the fact the cars cooling is more than adequate.
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Carbon filters are an emissions requirement.
So are cats... What's your point? The comment was about modifying the car for more performance not better emissions compliance... Most of these things do indeed "cripple" the cars performance because that's the point.
You are missing the point. BMW didn't intentionally include them to 'cripple' performance, they are an emissions requirement. Removing them doesn't magically release significant HP, but happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence to hand. My comment was aimed at the fact the cars cooling is more than adequate.
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Carbon filters are an emissions requirement.
So are cats... What's your point? The comment was about modifying the car for more performance not better emissions compliance... Most of these things do indeed "cripple" the cars performance because that's the point.
You are missing the point. BMW didn't intentionally include them to 'cripple' performance, they are an emissions requirement. Removing them doesn't magically release significant HP, but happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence to hand. My comment was aimed at the fact the cars cooling is more than adequate.
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So are cats... What's your point? The comment was about modifying the car for more performance not better emissions compliance... Most of these things do indeed "cripple" the cars performance because that's the point.
You are missing the point. BMW didn't intentionally include them to 'cripple' performance, they are an emissions requirement. Removing them doesn't magically release significant HP, but happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence to hand. My comment was aimed at the fact the cars cooling is more than adequate.
Good video and I have seen it before. However this test is conducted on a naturally aspirated engine. The S55 is forced induction.
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In what way is the intake crippled? Carbon filters are an emissions requirement. If you can show me where the S55 in the M2C is pulling timing because of IAT temps I'd love to see it.

The S55 cooling system is extremely robust. It can pound around a track all day no problem. There is zero need to upgrade the cooling for a street car.
Look at the location and truncation of the intake snorkels prior to the airboxes and compare them to the M3/M4 intakes which draw fresh air from the area of the kidney grills. Same engine, less efficient air intake.

Additionally, there have been multiple tests by various aftermarket manufacturer's (Dinan & CSF are two I remember) that show the engine losing power on multiple back-to-back pulls as it heat soaks.

Personally, I think that BMW had to cripple/detune the M2C motor from a marketing/sales standpoint as by putting the S55 into the M2C they "inverted the pyramid"-- they had the lower level M-car with more capability than the higher-end models. I read somewhere that BMW's stated rationale for detuning the M2C S55 motor was "lack of cooling due to frontal surface area", or something like that. I suspect it was more along the lines of "we have to protect M3/M4 sales."

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