05-06-2024, 08:41 PM | #1 |
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Narrowed my options down to Bilsten B16 & Ohlin R&T
Is the Ohlin R&T worth the extra ~$900 over the Bilsten B16 PSS10 for my 80%/20% street/track use? I’m a beginner track driver and don’t intent on making this a dedicated race car, so not looking for the super high end coilovers.
I'm more performance oriented and can withstand stiffer spring rates. Prefer car planted on the ground vs hopping around just to be more comfortable.
I’m leaving KW v3 out of the list so the decision is easier unless there is a reason to include them here. I’ve heard their springs are ID 61mm so it’ll need modification to fit other spring options. |
05-06-2024, 10:28 PM | #2 |
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Do you have a dealer in mind for the Öhlins? 3DM Motorsport has answers to some of your questions on their site, so I'll pull from there. Full disclosure, I'm a 3DM customer and Öhlins fan.
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05-07-2024, 06:56 PM | #4 |
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Thanks for your reply!
Another downgrade I found with the Bilstein B16 is that there's no separate pre-load and ride height adjustment on Bilstein B16 while Ohlin R&T allows for this. I honestly don't know how useful this may be, but there are people using B16s at the track and seem happy with it... Also, since compression and rebound can't be independently adjusted, I guess the B16s are really more comparable to for example the KW V1. So I guess in a way, I'm sort of comparing apples to oranges here because these two coilover systems are in different leagues. |
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05-08-2024, 07:44 AM | #5 |
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I've done quite a bit of internet searching on this topic. I came across a number of comments that the B16s were quite stiff feeling for DD. Those with the RT seem to really like them. Especially if tracking will only be an occasional endeavor.
I've landed in a spot where I'll go with a set of Nitrons. I bring this up because OG Shark has a road kit. I'm wondering if the road kit could be upgraded later with the camber plates and stiffer springs if you got more involved with track days. Might be worth an ask, but this might also be out of budget
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Ohlins is worth the investment, its the best system on the market in my opinion
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Just remember that some damping adjustment isn't fully independent. Ohlins with its rebound damping will move compression around 20% in the same direction as well. Feel free to reach out for quotes on KW, Bilstein, TC Kline Racing and Ohlins. We were the largest Ohlins R&T retailers last year and have some of the best prices around. |
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The Öhlins R&T kit is also single adjustable—technically rebound only but there's some low-speed cross-talk on the compression side* (adjusting rebound will adjust compression but to a much lesser effect). Neither the compression side or Dual Flow Valve (DFV) are adjustable. *I believe this is common with rebound adjustments on monotube dampers |
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05-08-2024, 10:46 PM | #9 |
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I can tolerate spring rates that are a bit stiffer than M2C stocks for street driving.
While doing research on the R&T, quite a few folks have actually mentioned having to switch out to softer spring rates because of how stiff it was, so a bit of contradiction there. For Bilsten B16, are there kits out there that come with linear springs so I don't have to buy them separately? I also heard the Litchfield B16s were good. |
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Experiment with various damper adjuster settings and you can make it hop/skip stiff, all the way to a soft/floaty feel. |
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I thought the Bilsteins also has one knob that adjusts both compression and rebound at the same time?
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The R&T DFV (dual-flow valve) truly adjusts rebound and compression. Here’s a dyno test of the f8x M2/M3/M4 R&T dampers which clearly shows the compression is changing not due to cross talk: |
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