[turnsignalslol]

Hey y'all,

I will soon be upgrading from a 2022 BMW 330i to a 2020 M2 Competition and was wondering what potential quirks and issues the car (and the S55 engine) might have so that I can be prepared for what I am getting into. I test drove the car and absolutely loved it so I'm trying my hardest to make this dream happen.

Only thing I've heard about are oil leaks and crank hub spinning but the latter seems to be more common with people running tuned cars and pushing the limits of the stock crank hub fix.

Thanks!

From a soon to be F87 owner

[Humdizzle]

congrats. f8x cars are pretty solid.

crankhub is usually something that just goes. there usually wont be any tell tale signs of impending doom as far as i know. it can happen to any car, but more often to tuned ones. you might be able to have the bmw dealer check to see if was tuned. Check the oil cooler under the front bumper to make sure that hasn't been hit.

if you're picky about cosmetics check the wheels for curb rash, body work for signs of a repaint or touch up, panel gaps, etc. look at the interior to check wear on touch points and seats. also important to check the back seat area for signs of kids/pets. one m2c i looked at seemed to have a child seat imprint in the leather, along with dog hair on the floor. check carfax obviously. put the VIN into google to see if anything pops up.

get a ppi at a bmw dealer if possible. they can get the car on a lift and do a thorough lookover.

one thing i'll say is when you're going to a dealer to buy a car try to 'hate it'. look for every little thing wrong with it, drive with the stereo off and listen for any little creak. if you go pumped about a car you will be blinded and miss things.

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

congrats. f8x cars are pretty solid.

crankhub is usually something that just goes. there usually wont be any tell tale signs of impending doom as far as i know. it can happen to any car, but more often to tuned ones. you might be able to have the bmw dealer check to see if was tuned. Check the oil cooler under the front bumper to make sure that hasn't been hit.

if you're picky about cosmetics check the wheels for curb rash, body work for signs of a repaint or touch up, panel gaps, etc. look at the interior to check wear on touch points and seats. also important to check the back seat area for signs of kids/pets. one m2c i looked at seemed to have a child seat imprint in the leather, along with dog hair on the floor. check carfax obviously. put the VIN into google to see if anything pops up.

get a ppi at a bmw dealer if possible. they can get the car on a lift and do a thorough lookover.

one thing i'll say is when you're going to a dealer to buy a car try to 'hate it'. look for every little thing wrong with it, drive with the stereo off and listen for any little creak. if you go pumped about a car you will be blinded and miss things.

The car is actually a demo car with only around 5000 miles, and it’s being sold by a BMW dealership. How should I go about getting the PPI done? My salesperson has made me feel very comfortable throughout this whole process but I can’t help but think that the dealership selling the car would also attempt to mask any potential issues that it might have…

CarFax is clean, regular service intervals, at least once a year (since the car wasn’t driven much) and seemed to get a break in service at the right time so those are generally good signs I think

When I test drove the car, everything seemed fine and there weren’t any visible signs of damage. Interior was also mint because it was a demo car 😁

[DFW_M]

Demo cars are that...demo. People that drive them want to push them to the limits, over and over, especially the ///M cars. Hopefully, all of them warmed them up properly before gunning them...
I am sure the car was maintained well, however, I am not sure I would go for an M demo (or the M-school car) that is there to showcase what M cars are about...

[baege]

is it CPO with an extended warranty?
if so, get the consumables not covered by warranty checked, then buy and drive it with no worries and then if you are considering keeping it once the warranty is over get a fuill PPI then

[Moloc]

If it's a demo car, RUN! Do not buy it, especially an M car.

Years ago I got into trucks with the old man, he bought a 1500 Ram demo and a month later I bought a Chevy ZR2 demo. We both had so many issues, me more so than him since it was a performance truck so people that test drove them wanted to really test out the features. Needless to say an M car is firmly in that territory but a lot more so since you really need to warm it up and break it in. Even if everything is under warranty you don't want it to be stuck in the shop before a weekend out or something like that. Warranty will cover the money but not the lost experiences.

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by Moloc

If it's a demo car, RUN! Do not buy it, especially an M car.

Years ago I got into trucks with the old man, he bought a 1500 Ram demo and a month later I bought a Chevy ZR2 demo. We both had so many issues, me more so than him since it was a performance truck so people that test drove them wanted to really test out the features. Needless to say an M car is firmly in that territory but a lot more so since you really need to warm it up and break it in. Even if everything is under warranty you don't want it to be stuck in the shop before a weekend out or something like that. Warranty will cover the money but not the lost experiences.

Yeah, I’m a lot more wary now that I know what a “demo” car is, especially if it was registered in Woodcliff Lake, NJ. I probably should have suspected something when I saw multiple M2Cs with the same spec and similar mileage at the dealership that I’m looking at right now.

Luckily, the salesman was upfront with me when I asked and he confirmed that it was most likely a track car and would have to double check. Unless they offer me a warranty on top of the car, I might just have to walk away from this one…

Also, I noticed that the gear shifts from first to second while on efficient and when the car was still cold was not very smooth; is this normal for a DCT or a sign of a bigger issue?

[///MPhatic]

I worked in the car business for 6 years, and I can tell you that I'd never buy a demo. NEVER.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Yeah, I’m a lot more wary now that I know what a “demo” car is, especially if it was registered in Woodcliff Lake, NJ. I probably should have suspected something when I saw multiple M2Cs with the same spec and similar mileage at the dealership that I’m looking at right now.

Luckily, the salesman was upfront with me when I asked and he confirmed that it was most likely a track car and would have to double check. Unless they offer me a warranty on top of the car, I might just have to walk away from this one…

Also, I noticed that the gear shifts from first to second while on efficient and when the car was still cold was not very smooth; is this normal for a DCT or a sign of a bigger issue?

What you're describing sounds exactly like former Performance Center cars. If all the M2C cars that they have are similar mileage and DCT, the odds are near 100% they bought these via the BMW internal auction process for former PC cars. None of them will be able to be CPO'd by BMW. I'd advise forgetting about it and never look back (although recording the VINs off all of them might be useful out into the future for the board here and other owners).

[turnsignalslol]

Hey y'all,

I'm going to most likely end up doing a pre-purchase inspection at a different dealership on the specific M2C that I am interested in to make sure that there isn't any significant damage or anything I should be worried about.

The car still has about 2 years left of warranty and I might try to get the salesperson to hook me up with an extended warranty because I'm basically willingly buying a car that has "i've been driven like i was stolen" written on it.

I hope this car has been treated better than others because when I test drove it and looked at it, there wasn't the telltale signs of abuse that other people have reported like busted up side skirts and seats falling apart/showing more wear than normal.

Unfortunately, this is what I am stuck with as a Californian, all the other M2s are either high mileage or absurdly expensive and even then, you don't really know how the owner has treated it. I think I'd feel worse buying an M2 that has been modded because then the warranty is actually fucked. I also can't buy a car across the country and have it transported for who knows how much, and also somehow pass CA emissions which are a complete PITA.

Thanks for all of your input guys, and I'll keep you updated

[leopard print]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Hey y'all,

I'm going to most likely end up doing a pre-purchase inspection at a different dealership on the specific M2C that I am interested in to make sure that there isn't any significant damage or anything I should be worried about.

The car still has about 2 years left of warranty and I might try to get the salesperson to hook me up with an extended warranty because I'm basically willingly buying a car that has "i've been driven like i was stolen" written on it.

I hope this car has been treated better than others because when I test drove it and looked at it, there wasn't the telltale signs of abuse that other people have reported like busted up side skirts and seats falling apart/showing more wear than normal.

Unfortunately, this is what I am stuck with as a Californian, all the other M2s are either high mileage or absurdly expensive and even then, you don't really know how the owner has treated it. I think I'd feel worse buying an M2 that has been modded because then the warranty is actually fucked. I also can't buy a car across the country and have it transported for who knows how much, and also somehow pass CA emissions which are a complete PITA.

Thanks for all of your input guys, and I'll keep you updated

FYI - you don't need to purchase the extended warranty at the dealership you purchase the car from.

Reach out to GOLFFRR or Christine from this thread: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1676787
They have the best prices on extended warranties.

[turnsignalslol]

Update:

I've booked a test drive with a different M2C that has more miles but is a one owner personal car. Decided that I don't want to risk it with a ticking time bomb. It should be a crime to sell these track abused cars for market value.

[DVG 335]

Originally Posted by turnsignalslol

Update:

I've booked a test drive with a different M2C that has more miles but is a one owner personal car. Decided that I don't want to risk it with a ticking time bomb. It should be a crime to sell these track abused cars for market value.

Good luck with the search. The right one is out there somewhere.

[Moloc]

Good luck man, take your time and find the right one. Took 6 months to find my current car but it was worth every penny and every second. It's super hard walking away but you car is out there somewhere, just be patient.

[Bingham]

Lookout:

Repeating rear tail-light malfunction message.

…maybe there was a recall? Seemed to remember something about an in-line resistor from bulb. Local dealer finally sorted after multiple trips.

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by leopard print

FYI - you don't need to purchase the extended warranty at the dealership you purchase the car from.

Reach out to GOLFFRR or Christine from this thread: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1676787
They have the best prices on extended warranties.

[AlpsRider]

I've been to BMW track days where they had a fleet of M2s for us to thrash on the track. If there is a chance it falls in that category, I would run.

[turnsignalslol]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I've been to BMW track days where they had a fleet of M2s for us to thrash on the track. If there is a chance it falls in that category, I would run.

The first one I was looking into actually fell into that category and in my excitement, I didn't even realize. I almost pulled the trigger but was stopped after learning about it before buying (thanks to you guys) and people around me just telling me to slow down and really do my research.

[Bobdaxx]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I've been to BMW track days where they had a fleet of M2s for us to thrash on the track. If there is a chance it falls in that category, I would run.

Hey alps rider Im heading to Zermatt 3rd week in Feb. Staying at hotel silvanas-legit ski in ski out
I saw your avatar and had to reply lol

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Bobdaxx

Hey alps rider Im heading to Zermatt 3rd week in Feb. Staying at hotel silvanas-legit ski in ski out
I saw your avatar and had to reply lol

You're a lucky man, Zermatt is magical. I hope to be on those slopes this season too. Enjoy!