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it is too late to beta test this map.. i have ps2 and willing to test it if they need me too??
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02-10-2022, 04:39 PM | #443 |
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Not too crazy high, that TTE is impressive!
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02-10-2022, 04:55 PM | #444 |
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Yeah, I think the amount of power from the Stg 3 E50 beta map is just a bit more than the TTE can flow, similar to what my Dinan was doing--look at how similar the upper RPM trends are b/n the two!
The Multimap looks like the best fit for the TTE and keeps power solid to redline. Should be even better when it's not super cold out and I run E60-65. Gotta love that with stock like spool! I'm sure the beta map rocks on a PS2, TTE550, etc., tho! |
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thank you
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BTW am I reading it correctly that MM map makes identical power than E30? Have you compared the log?
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For my setup Stg 2+ E30 (on any Emix >E30) and Stg 2+ MM (on E50) have similar peak whp, but the MM averages ~15whp more than the Stg 2+ E30 before & after the peak. In the logs below you'll see that boost targets are the same for the Stg 2+ MM & E30 maps, but the MM dials in a little more timing (15.5deg vs 13.5deg) bc it's reading E50 from my BM3 Flexfuel sensor. To me this is why the 20.8psi boost target on the MM with the Emix timing advance feature and running E50-E65 seems to be the best fit for my car, vs the Stg 3 E50 beta that is targeting 23psi that is pushing the TTE a little too hard. I've asked Halim if I should stick with the MM, or if he wants to taper the boost target up top on the Stg 3 E50 beta so we can have more mid range power and similar top end power as the MM. Stg 2+ MM https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6205...729b3a50870ec1 Stg 2+ E30 https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=61cc...729b1628c6de69 |
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I really like the power curve on the Multimap. Do you dial down the power for events ZM2 ?
Also, does this scale with pump gas? Meaning E10? Could you in theory max out the car on a pump gas map? |
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I haven't ran any of the Stg 2+ Exx maps on track, yet. Will see how they do this year. And, the Multimap will scale down to E10 93 octane. I have some preliminary logs over here, and will update the thread soon: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1884838 |
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Another quick update that Chris @ Dorch will be pushing a Dorch Stage 1 HPFP checkbox update soon to Halim/BM3 that provides the additional pump headroom I've been testing out.
It was just enough to allow my car to run the Stg 3 E50 beta map (and hit 494whp/547wftlbs on E50!) and removed HPFP crashes on kickdown that I was having with high Emixes in cold weather. I love upgrades like this! |
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Alright, since my puny TTE460 can't hang with the Stg 3 E50 beta map above 5600RPM, Halim is looking for some guys with PS2, TTE550, etc., that want to give it a shot.
Requirements are you already have solid Stg 2+ E30 logs, ability to quickly turn around beta logs after map revisions, FBO, turbo inlet pipe, larger IC, 3.5bar TMAP, obviously larger HPFP & turbo, and ideally an ethanol sensor to read Emix levels accurately. Oh, and you'll also need some good weather and tires bc this map rips, and if you have a local Dynojet that you've already put runs on and can compare the Stg 3 beta map to those, that's a bonus. If this is you, send me a PM and I'll get you hooked up! |
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Did you ever figure out what caused your super knock event? how has your car been running after switching out your spark plugs? |
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02-16-2022, 01:22 PM | #454 | |
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your boost isn't keeping up with target. (16.5 vs 20.8) your MAF reading is low - do you have stock intake? i max out 41.3 lb/min at around 4500rpm @ 20psi with stock intake, stock turbo inlet. your STFT continues to drop to 0.7 which is the max the DME will correct for. your wgdc is high for the boost you are making seems like you either have a boost leak, a faulty MAF, and/or a faulty front o2 sensor? a faulty MAF shouldn't be an issue for WOT though. my theory is STFT maxes out at 0.7, and you continue to run rich, causing misfire, causing DME intervention. or worse, you have faulty o2 sensor and you are actually running lean rather than rich and you get super knock.
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My trims lean out at idle to the point where I am getting p0171 code if the car idles too long. STFT returns to 1 when I give it gas from idle with no load, but goes negative under heavy load so I suspect I have a boost leak that sips at idle and pisses under throttle. Quote:
I really just need to address this boost leak. Anybody have a testing cap? I know the inlet is all the way down there in the bay. Anybody have an easy way of doing this (since I kind of need to baby my shoulder for the next 8 weeks)
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ZM2 What is your best 100-200 time? If you hade only the Dorch stg1 hpfp and all other bolts on. Excluding the TTE460, what do you think the car would you performed then? With proper tune. Thank, Simon |
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Stg 2+ E30 Stock turbo - 7.8s Dinan turbo - 7.6s TTE460 - 7.1s PS2 - 6.9s Upcoming Stg 3 E50 Stock turbo - 7.6s Dinan turbo - 7.4s TTE460 - 6.9s PS2 - 6.6s |
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Any update on public release?
My issues have all been resolved - boost/smoke tests showed no leaks. Swapped Dinan Intake back to stock + KN filter and fuel trims are now perfect. Boy was that thing throwing off my MAF and fueling. Also gained 4 mpg!
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Hello my ethanol running N55 brethren!
Just a quick update that BM3 has pushed out the Dorch Stage 1 HPFP checkbox update that provides extra flow! Enough so that my car was able to hit 494whp on E50 on the Stage 3 E50 beta map. All you need to do is re-download any of the maps that you routinely use, and you'll get the update. I'm going to try E60-65 this week on the Stg 2+ Multimap and an updated Stg 3 E50 beta map that Halim sent me. We're going to compare the 2+ MM with more timing scaling from the higher Emix & ethanol sensor and the Stg 3 E50 beta with a little less boost up top to try to smooth out the curve, versus my last dyno: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=439 Also, we're waiting on more logs from PS2 guys before Halim will push the Stg 3 E50 beta to OTS. |
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The Stg 3 guys will be able to run 23psi to redline, whereas stock turbo Stg 2+ E50 guys should be getting a nice bump in midrange power with boost tapering up top to smooth out the curve. Ultimately it will take some of both groups dyno'ing their cars on the beta or new maps when they drop, since I'm kind of an in between case with my TTE460. As for the HPFP update when running the stock turbo & E60--there's no additional power, but you'll absolutely benefit on colder days especially if you go WOT in lower gears where the torque/power demand is greatest. I used to get HPFP drop outs with my Dorch Stage 1 on the Stg 2+ E30 map with my Dinan turbo in those situations. Now, I don't even get drop outs on the Stg 3 E50 beta and E50 fuel with my TTE460 in those situations, so the update should help you too! |
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