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Yes it's definitely possible
The B58 is absolutely a much better engine I knew this when I bought my OGM2 but I pulled the trigger anyways I have no doubt the lovely B58 will be in the second generation M2, and least in the base car
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I have no doubt the lovely B58 will be in the second generation M2, and least in the base car[/QUOTE]
The Twin Turbo S58 will be in the G87 on the Supra/Z4 chassis...
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What you forgot is that the B58 wasn’t used until the 2016 models. All the M2 test vehicles had N55s and were seen as early as 2015. So the B58 wasn’t really an option for the 2016 M2.
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Fitting a dct on the b58 is absolutely not going to be worth it if it's even possible, as far as I know there was never a b58 fitted with a dct from bmw or toyota(lol). Yes it's a superior transmission but for how much it will cost you get the m2c and get a s55 engine
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So they M-fied the tried and true N55 with enhancements and dropped it in the M2, and in that iteration also pushed the N55 to it's max. By the time the B58 was going in the M240i, it became the M2C that was getting the S55. One of the major reasons to sunset the last iteration of the N55 in the M2 and replace with S55, was due to new emission regs in EU. The N55 was not going to meet the new rules, which forced BMW to consider the S55 and also forced a redesign of the front end. |
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The answer is probably DCT. Since there was no firmware and no testing for B58 + DCT, even if it bolts up, they either had to switch to the ZF8 or keep DCT and use S55. They chose S55 and DCT. I think stock S55 and DCT are better for track use and fit the character of the car a bit more.
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