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      11-22-2020, 11:29 AM   #221
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That's amazing!
Even in the twisties the 33cl cans stay nicely in place. If you finished #4 in your cupholder in the front, replace the full #1 closest/deepest to the backseats with the empty #4, and so on. No dangling around.
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No dangling around.
Maybe not but a warm can under pressure that's been bounced around will give you an explosive surprise when you open it. Attachment 2466861

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      11-22-2020, 02:07 PM   #224
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Disagree on the horsepower...my OG is at 365 and is a freakin blast to drive. Personally I don't think these cars need more horsepower, nor do I want that to be the focus of the G87.

I want the focus to continue to be in driving dynamics...and for crying out loud, improved steering!

I'd be good with a small bump in HP to like 415. Just make this thing awesome to drive with a good sounding exhaust. And maybe a better sounding HK stereo.

Edit: and good call out above. I noticed that front overhang as well and do not like. makes me wonder how planted the vehicle could feel with such a short wheel base relative to the body length
Cause you drive slow just kidding but go onto the track section and see how many track rats mod for horsepower on the OG and you get the idea...

Hell I even find my M2C slow even though I am not after horsepower.

Practically, it has to be competitive against the current and upcoming range of performance cars. A90 Supra, RS3 and A45 aside, it makes no sense for BMW to charge a 50%+ premium on the M2 over the 400Z, STi and Civic type R while only offering a similar level of straight line performance. I am sure all the aforementioned cars upcoming are going to have great driving dynamics. The current Supra and A45 certainly has it.

I agree with you that the driving dynamics has to be a focus but both great handling and acceleration prowess are attributes on the performance chart that they need to make strides on. One must not neglect one for the other.
I don't find my m2c slow on the track 🙈
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Color me crazy but isn't that a "sensor" and if that is a sensor doesn't that mean there might be a big grill? I'm just asking! 🤷*♂️
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Color me crazy but isn't that a "sensor" and if that is a sensor doesn't that mean there might be a big grill? I'm just asking! 🤷*♂️
On the new m3/m4 that sensor didn’t fit between the two new grills and got moved off center into one of the grills. That center low position is the same position as the current f90 m5. Hopefully it points toward less extreme grills.
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Will be interesting to see how the G87 M2 progresses over the next couple of years, engine no doubt will be a beast and the interior will be better.

However, the cosmetic appearance of the car is still unknown
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Color me crazy but isn't that a "sensor" and if that is a sensor doesn't that mean there might be a big grill? I'm just asking! ��*♂️
M8 convertible with front sensor
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Color me crazy but isn't that a "sensor" and if that is a sensor doesn't that mean there might be a big grill? I'm just asking! ��*♂️
M8 convertible with front sensor
Whew!!!! Awesome!
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      11-22-2020, 09:17 PM   #230
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That's a bit unkind; the G82 is a yacht
189.1" / 4794mm for the G80/G82: that's a whole lotta Rosie.
(She ain't exactly pretty | Ain't exactly small | Fourt'two thirt'ninefiftysix | You could say she's got it all | Doin' all the things you do | Ain't no fairy story | Ain't no skin and bones | But you give it all you got | Weighin' in at nineteen stone | You're a whole lotta woman)
Funny you mention an AC/DC number, they originated from the tiny town I live in, Adelaide, South Australia

Now I have a smile on my face looking at this beautiful yacht
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You're in the market for an M2c now. Why wait 2 plus years. M2c is fantastic. You only live once enjoy today and worry about the new model when it comes out.
While I agree, I oddly stumbled upon a C8 Corvette allocation late yesterday. I should know right away tomorrow morning if I can indeed buy it, so I may be hauling ass 6 hours from home with the checkbook at 8:00am. Obviously a huge deviation from my original plan, and a complete off subject comment. Long story short, I’ll likely wait it out to see what this new M2 all entails.
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      11-23-2020, 03:46 AM   #232
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M8 convertible with front sensor
God that's such a beauty!

Still would love for them to figure out a way to make these sensors blend in more - looks very retro-fitted.
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It definitely looks longer and less compact than the 1M and F87 M2. Its proportions are more similar to the F82 M4, even if its actual length lies probably between the F87's and the F82's. Front overhang seems huge, as on the normal 2-series coupe mules.

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I hope the front end will look better than on this render...
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      11-23-2020, 06:55 AM   #235
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I hope the front end will look better than on this render...
Seriously... that front end looks as though it has an unfortunate congenital syndrome...
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      11-23-2020, 07:10 AM   #236
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God that's such a beauty!

Still would love for them to figure out a way to make these sensors blend in more - looks very retro-fitted.
Maybe you're sorry what you wish for - the iX has that sensor integrated into the double kidney...
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It definitely looks longer and less compact than the 1M and F87 M2. Its proportions are more similar to the F82 M4, even if its actual length lies probably between the F87's and the F82's. Front overhang seems huge, as on the normal 2-series coupe mules.
Good comparison, but needs to be taken with a pinch of salt as prototype cars still have bolt on camo up front
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I hope the front end will look better than on this render...
There's an awful lot of plastic front-end, emphasis on awful
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      11-23-2020, 07:36 AM   #239
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Sharing today's article but not really new news.

https://www.bimmertoday.de/2020/11/2...87-nachfolger/
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BMW M2 2022: First Erlkönig photos show the F87 successor

The BMW M2 G87 has been talked about and written for a long time, now there are also the first Erlkönig photos of the F87 successor. You can see the photos of a camouflaged prototype at our Spanish colleagues from Motor.es and anyone who has previously doubted the plans for a continuation of the compact sports series can now sit back and relax and look forward to the things that may come: Despite With strong camouflage, a few corner points are already clearly visible, including the silhouette, which is strongly reminiscent of its predecessor, with a long bonnet, the first row of seats practically in the middle and a relatively short trunk lid.

The result is a compact coupé with almost ideal proportions: we can assume that the engine is positioned far back in the engine compartment and thus close to the center of the vehicle, thus laying the foundation for the balanced weight distribution typical of BMW. At the moment everything indicates that the BMW M2 G87 will be unveiled in 2022 with an as yet unknown variant of the twin-turbo in-line six-cylinder S58: While the engine has so far been offered in two expansion stages with 480 and 510 hp, we initially expect a slightly weaker version for the M2 Expansion stage with expected around 440 hp. Directly at the market launch, however, a BMW M2 Competition could also be offered, which moves in the previously usual S58 performance regions.

The technical platform of the BMW M2 G87 is even more important than the exact performance specification, because the top model of the new 2-series variant G42 is based on the current BMW cluster architecture (CLAR) and is therefore closely related to the 3-series G20. While all other 1 and 2 Series have been converted to the UKL architecture with transverse engine and front-wheel drive, the 2 Series Coupé and thus also the M2 remain with rear-wheel drive - and promise driving pleasure according to the old recipe.

For M GmbH it will be the third premium in a segment that is actually characterized by other concepts. But the BMW 1 Series M Coupé and the first M2 have more than clearly shown how big the market is for a rear-wheel drive compact sports car. A change in the successful recipe could hardly have been explained against this background.

However, patience is still required before the market launch of the new BMW M2 G87: at least a year will pass between the introduction of the 2 Series Coupé G42 at the end of 2021 and the start of the M2. At the moment we are expecting an official presentation including all pictures and facts in 2022, but by the time it is handed over to the first customers, a 2023 could possibly be on the calendar.
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I hope the front end will look better than on this render...
Still better than the 4 series.
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      11-23-2020, 08:25 AM   #241
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If we're making a wishlist:
6 speed manual
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510 hp S58
Individual paint options
The carbon buckets from the G8X
A HUD
oh and I want it to start at $60k.
510hp?

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I agree, specifically the weight. I'm getting a G80, and I love everything they did with it in terms of styling and the fact that they kept the manual boxes well for their continued commitment to enthusiasts. I'd be on the Porsche forums because my loyalty is to the transmission, and not the brand.

I don't understand the weight gain...
Agreed and I don't usually care much about weight but +500lb is insane when I was convinced we would be staying flat or even decreasing after the F8x.
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