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      09-09-2020, 04:41 PM   #67
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What does OP mean when he said "first round"?? Is there a second round or something??
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I really don't think these will be impossible to get. i live in the dc area so here yeah there will be more demand than supply. but i'm assuming there will be a fair amount up for grabs if your willing to search
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Its a true limited edition model , it isnt like the 1M or M4 CS . Most of the times the factory stays loyal on this , and doesnt change the plans due to demand .
When I ordered my 1M in 2011, I was told that 41 cars would be made available over here. In the end over 160 were allocated over here. I didn't care about the numbers - I wanted to enjoy driving the car (which I also did). But true that the initial "2700" figure was not mentioned in 1M press materials. As we know, in the end 6309 1M cars were produced instead of 2700.

A couple of years later, the F82 M4 GTS was quite a different story. BMW flaunted "700" and "limited edition" in press materials, promoting exclusivity. The M4 GTS brochure indicated: "In fact, the top performance of the new BMW M4 GTS only knows one limit: the limited number of just 700 vehicles worldwide" (see here):





High demand by dealers, greedy speculators and genuine customers likely induced BMW to break its "just 700" promise. 803 were sold (830 were made, including pre-production, press and demo cars) (see here and here). Speculators (coin flippers) found out rather quickly that a 981 Cayman GT4 'let's make a quick buck' frenzy wouldn't materialize with the M4 GTS. Indeed, it didn't bode well: even today several low mile M4 GTS cars are still sitting around with a 'For Sale' sign. Again, genuine customers don't care: they prefer enjoying their cars - that's usually the main reason why they bought the car in the first place.

The M4 GTS production increase wasn't announced - it was discovered, and not quite appreciated, to say the least (see for example the dedicated thread here).

To add insult to injury, subsequently BMW introduced the M4 DTM Champion Edition ("limited edition"): 200 cars with an even higher price-tag. Actually, it was an M4 GTS with a different aero package, some added BMW M livery and a funky name (see here): "The M4 DTM Champion Edition is basically the second coming of the M4 GTS, which wowed the automotive world last year with its awesome water injection technology. As you'd expect this car is rarer than the one it's based on, with just 200 units set for production; the M4 GTS had a production run of 700 cars. Another thing that sets the M4 DTM Champion Edition apart from the M4 GTS is its price: €148,550 ($163,376). The M4 GTS was sold for $134,200, with the markup for the new car likely owing to its collectible status. That's the only conclusion we could come to as the two M4s are basically the same." (here).

As M4 CS and M3 CS production targets were 4-digits (3000 cars for the M4 CS and 1200 cars for the M3 CS), BMW refrained from labeling those "Limited Edition". No production figure in press materials. Same goes for the M2 CS: press materials don't mention the recurring "2200" figure. M2 CS production was delayed because of the COVID-19 situation. The final figure will be known someday in the future.

Anyways, "limited edition", what's in a name ? In a way, in the grand scheme of things, any car model production is 'limited' in production time and quantities.
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Color me skeptical, but is this accurate? My dealer is listed as having one, but they claim to have two.
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Recommend calling the smaller dealerships around the country. I found my 1m at BMW of Utica pretty late in the game. Every other dealer was charging $2k min premium. They had allocation for one and sold it to me for list. I did Spartanburg delivery.

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Yes we have two allocated here for us at BMW of Las Vegas. One is already spoken for. One more available. We aren't selling out of state or town for now though. Rumor is there might be one more round of these.
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What does OP mean when he said "first round"?? Is there a second round or something??
I didn't say that. Edited by Mods to say that. No one knows if there will be another round released. Speculation around the subject boils down to production capacity of Leipzig and the fact that all M2 CS are MY2020 and will have to be produced by 12/31 whereas the rest of M2C production is scheduled to continue until June? 2021.

My store has two slots, week 41 (which is mine! ) and week 49. Week 49 is Nov 30th. Is it realistic that more slots are available in the same timeframe? That doesn't seem likely to me. We are quickly reaching the end of the available window. That could change I guess; they could change the narrative and jam more in or extend the window and make MY2021, but who knows.

Original rumors were for ~400 coming to the US so take that for what it's worth.
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Ok, so why do we think this is the first wave and not the only wave of allocations?

Why would there be another round of allocations if 466 is the number coming to the USA?

Are we expecting to pickup many more than 466 out of the 2200?
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Ok, so why do we think this is the first wave and not the only wave of allocations?

Why would there be another round of allocations if 466 is the number coming to the USA?

Are expecting to pickup many more than 466 out of the 2200?
I think what people are getting at is that there will be far more than 2200 worldwide and there will be additional allocations.
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Ok, so why do we think this is the first wave and not the only wave of allocations?

Why would there be another round of allocations if 466 is the number coming to the USA?

Are we expecting to pickup many more than 466 out of the 2200?
From info obtained back in May about number of US allocations. Spot on for current numbers.

Germany - 500
Belgium / Lux - 131
Canada - 120
UK - 104
Australia - 70
France - 70
Japan - 60
Spain - 47
Italy - 44
Netherlands - 30
Bulgaria - 4
US - 435 [348 + 87(# of high volume M dealerships)]*
China -
Russia-
UAE-
South Africa - 30
Switzerland -
Ireland -
Cyprus - 1
Mexico -
South America (Brazil) - 20

Total: 1,566* / 2,200 (maybe?)

It's looking like the original leaked rumor of 350 to 450 units is correct for the US. I get a range of 435 to 463.


That puts the updated number to 1596. Still 600 units shy of 2200 units. Im certain this list is missing some countries.

Suspicion is that the plant will produce US models through the plant shutdown in October, which likely leaves enough capacity to make more units, but the 466 US allocation is right on from the source that stated everything is on track with no changes to production.

We think it's the only round of allocations because the numbers are consistent with previous rumor, but more in the works also makes sense if BMW wants to hit 2200 units because I think they are shy of this figure. My guess is that they would evaluate markets that want more, and if there is still production capacity at the end of the run before 12/31 they would pump more out.

It's still comes down to production capacity. This plant is still producing cars that sell in much higher volume.
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Removed by request of BMW? Lol, what a joke they are

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Removed by request of BMW? Lol, what a joke they are

I've got the screenshots if anyone missed out and wants them
The regional rep called our GM and was quite pissed. Sorry everyone. If anyone was ever wondering if BMW reads Bimmerpost I guess you have your answer.
Pretty funny they pay attention to something that will only generate hype and help them sell more cars

But they don't pay attention to threads about crank hub or knee bag issues

Surprised they even care at all about something that isn't a crossover
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Anyways, "limited edition", what's in a name ? In a way, in the grand scheme of things, any car model production is 'limited' in production time and quantities.
Great Seinfeld joke, Ford limited production of the LTD to 85,000 units.
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Removed by request of BMW? Lol, what a joke they are

I've got the screenshots if anyone missed out and wants them
The regional rep called our GM and was quite pissed. Sorry everyone. If anyone was ever wondering if BMW reads Bimmerpost I guess you have your answer.
Pretty funny they pay attention to something that will only generate hype and help them sell more cars

But they don't pay attention to threads about crank hub or knee bag issues

Surprised they even care at all about something that isn't a crossover
This.

I find it amusing and absurd. Sounds like legit info is being censored around here. Never knew this board caters to the needs of BMW and their requests. Sounds a bit communist. Who knows what else gets removed when mass discussion of a problem area arises.
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So are the options still the same?
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