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My guess is due to a change in frame materials and electronics. I believe the point is that the future for manufacturing seems to be increasing weight. Unless using more expensive materials, but that decreases affordability.
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12-20-2019, 10:16 AM | #971 |
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Correct, which is why many Porschephiles view the 997 as the last mechanical/analog 911. The 991 weight savings was modest and came at a great cost. Anyway, that was over eight years ago, so I'm not sure it's all that relevant. The 992 is the new 911 and it's the biggest, fattest, heaviest and most tech/electronics-riddled 911 ever. Let's be honest, if you're a driver purist, and you are strictly in the market for a new car, your options are severely limited. The GT3 Touring was a dream come true for many enthusiasts but it was not cheap and the fact is production is long over now (and I almost dread what the 992 version will look like, in terms of size, tech, styling and weight). So, while the M2 CS is priced higher than I'd like, I think it's the best option in the new car market -- again, coming from a driver purist perspective.
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The 991 was 8 years ago. The 992 is current. I agree that Porsche has done a better job, the point is that even the best of the best have weight gain.
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Added weight is not a problem in my vehicle; my only one passenger is my girlfriend and I'm always subliminally crushing her self-esteem, so she starves herself to the point of borderline malnutrition. #WeightReduction
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Ok cut the BS, who is ordering one?
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I'm still planning to order one. I've done a complete turn from HS with gold wheels to the full on clown car spec. Anyone have an idea of what the dealer cost is for the CCB option? M curious if it's possible to get CCB for a low enough cost to make it enticing.
I can't justify them at $8500 since right after purchase depreciation will immediately be $8500 + probably $5k. I don't mind the pay to play, but setting money on fire is a bit rich of a game for me. The first year you'll probably turn a profit as I believe there will be enough folks that are willing to pay, but won't get an allocation. |
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Very on the fence. I can only drive my sports cars 8 months of the year so storage for 4-5 months depending on the first snow and final melt. To add insult to that, my M3CS was vandalized while in storage earlier this week. Just a broken window has turned in to roughly a 14k claim. We'll know forsure on January 6th when BMW Individual opens back up to order all the damaged leather. There is also no ETA because apparently the parts are made to order. We'll see on January 6th. But that also has me on the fence because this has turned in to such a PITA. |
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I'm still in i think. I've had a deposit down since May 2016 (...back when the rumors of the now M2C was going to be the M2CSL or M2GTS )
Misano Blue and black wheels, Manual transmission and Cup2 tires if they are a no (or low) cost option. No CCB's for me; too rich for my blood and I don't really see the benefit for the very high cost. Planning to do European Delivery and hopefully if I can swing it without getting fired , will drag that out for a 3 week extravaganza!
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Switzerland; there will be 100 M2 CS for the country (4th biggest M market worldwide) with only one config (subaru stylish), orders directly taken from BWM (then no clue if it gets delivered by reseller based on zip)...
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