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      11-29-2019, 09:31 AM   #463
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I can somewhat see it happening since EOP for the F82 M4 is in June of 2020 and EOP for the M2C is June of 2021. It bridges the gap until the next gen M4 comes out.

Either way, i still want the ultimate M2 from factory. It's really the one I've been waiting for since it was first rumoured in around 2016.
It would certainly be an easy way to upsell the consumer, and make extra profit with little effort. I'm still curious about how much this system weighs. I hope we get more details about items added to the CS that increased weight.
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      11-29-2019, 12:13 PM   #464
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I plan to beat the snot out of the CS assuming I get one. Drive it like I stole it. That's one of the selling points for me is that is been sorted to the point that it can be reliably beat upon.

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That's what it's been designed to do...looking forward to the videos Dave 🙂

M3_Adjuster - you going to be buying the cs?
I'm becoming a complete negative Nancy right now. I've been hoping for a CSL or GTS with a 6MT more so than a CS. The M2 CS has added more M4 but has added zero lightness aside from CCB which is an option. Ive been waiting for confirmation of what configuration is 83k base .. but a 25k delta for the M2 CS is just staggering unless CCB are included. I can't see paying more than a lightly used M3 CS or M4 CS (which are quicker cars) for an M2 CS.

Pulling my head out of the world of BMW, cars like the 718 Cayman GT4, the new vette, the new Mustang GT350/500 and of course Camaro are ridiculous bargains when considering new vehicles in the market.
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      11-29-2019, 12:48 PM   #465
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It's in a tough spot. Expensive enough to get you into "faster" cars, but those cars are also heavier. I find heavier cars less fun in day to day tooling around unless they bring something unique to the table. I was at the mall a couple of days ago and there was a zl1 Camaro on display. No 1le package. Completely underwhelming. The gt350/500 is gorgeous in my opinion. It's still a heavy car. Vette loses a lot of versatility as does the gt4.

If you really want to go have fun around town get an ND Miata, upgrade suspension, wheels/tires. Brake upgrade if tracking. Low speed hooligan all day long.
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      11-29-2019, 04:01 PM   #466
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I'm becoming a complete negative Nancy right now. I've been hoping for a CSL or GTS with a 6MT more so than a CS. The M2 CS has added more M4 but has added zero lightness aside from CCB which is an option. Ive been waiting for confirmation of what configuration is 83k base .. but a 25k delta for the M2 CS is just staggering unless CCB are included. I can't see paying more than a lightly used M3 CS or M4 CS (which are quicker cars) for an M2 CS.

Pulling my head out of the world of BMW, cars like the 718 Cayman GT4, the new vette, the new Mustang GT350/500 and of course Camaro are ridiculous bargains when considering new vehicles in the market.
M3 Adjuster: Why don't you just get a 911?
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      11-29-2019, 05:17 PM   #467
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People should be happy with the M2 CS. This is what we wanted four years ago at the end of 2015, the power of the M4 in the M2 chassis.
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      11-29-2019, 05:27 PM   #468
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Just announce the pricing for United States already.


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      11-29-2019, 05:31 PM   #469
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      11-29-2019, 06:31 PM   #470
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I almost wonder if this was a subversive plot to see how people responded to the “unconfirmed” number....given that many think the US will get the majority of the worldwide allocations, maybe they’re still trying to nail down the final price.
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      11-29-2019, 06:49 PM   #471
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People should be happy with the M2 CS. This is what we wanted four years ago at the end of 2015, the power of the M4 in the M2 chassis.
...with a $30k price premium over my base M2, no thanks. For me, the CS needed to be in the 718 weight class to justify its (unconfirmed) $83k MSRP, regardless of all the upgrades it's gained.
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      11-29-2019, 06:57 PM   #472
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83k is rough. I was honestly expecting to have a CCB equipped car for that price. It's just a smaller m4c at this point. That's a 75k car. I think they should keep the price low, and combine the c and cs build slots. Build as many as poeple want to buy.
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      11-29-2019, 07:01 PM   #473
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      11-29-2019, 07:04 PM   #474
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are the back seats Merino? I sorta assumed this, but noticed only the front seats get specifically mentioned as being Merino. Maybe I missed it.
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      11-29-2019, 07:06 PM   #475
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How is this car not lighter? Can someone explain. With roof, hood, seats, and adaptive suspension. The only way u actually lose weight is with CCB? The carbon lip is the only added piece when talking about weight. I'm confused on how it can still be equal weight with the components I mentioned being lighter.
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Oh and the lack of comfort entry and another climate zone. If it weighs the same wouldn't it make sense to leave the zone and entry so people wouldn't bitch more?
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I'm becoming a complete negative Nancy right now. I've been hoping for a CSL or GTS with a 6MT more so than a CS. The M2 CS has added more M4 but has added zero lightness aside from CCB which is an option. Ive been waiting for confirmation of what configuration is 83k base .. but a 25k delta for the M2 CS is just staggering unless CCB are included. I can't see paying more than a lightly used M3 CS or M4 CS (which are quicker cars) for an M2 CS.

Pulling my head out of the world of BMW, cars like the 718 Cayman GT4, the new vette, the new Mustang GT350/500 and of course Camaro are ridiculous bargains when considering new vehicles in the market.
M3 Adjuster: Why don't you just get a 911?
I've been involved with Porsches via instructing at Porsche and BMW CCA driving schools for 20 years or so. I've spent time in the right seat of everything from a 73 turbo to 83 RS america to 911 GT3 RS.

I've also driven quite a few, and if I were to start looking that way would be interested in a GT3 or Cayman GT4. While I admire Porsches for what they are, I'm absolutely not in the market for a six figure car. As it is, as a 25 year fan of the BMW marque I'm struggling with the idea of BMW M4s priced at that level ( I know - high end 2 series models are next ! )

besides...... My driving days on track began in an E30 M3 chasing down Porsche 951s...
I prefer passing Porches .
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How is this car not lighter? Can someone explain. With roof, hood, seats, and adaptive suspension. The only way u actually lose weight is with CCB? The carbon lip is the only added piece when talking about weight. I'm confused on how it can still be equal weight with the components I mentioned being lighter.
The adaptive suspension will definitely weigh more than the static suspension. Probably offset by the hood and roof. When I pulled off the stock diffuser for the M perf diffuser it weighted the same. The carbon fiber lip adds weight and the rear spoiler actually weighed more than stock lip when i swapped mine out.
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How is this car not lighter? Can someone explain. With roof, hood, seats, and adaptive suspension. The only way u actually lose weight is with CCB? The carbon lip is the only added piece when talking about weight. I'm confused on how it can still be equal weight with the components I mentioned being lighter.
The adaptive suspension will definitely weigh more than the static suspension. Probably offset by the hood and roof. When I pulled off the stock diffuser for the M perf diffuser it weighted the same. The carbon fiber lip adds weight and the rear spoiler actually weighed more than stock lip when i swapped mine out.
I was under the impression that the adaptive suspension weighs less because of the metal used. And how did you get access to CS parts? I'd like to put them on my car. The only part that is available is the rear diffuser. The front lip is not the same as the M performance and the wing isn't either. Can anyone confirm that the adaptive suspension is heavier? Artemis can you weigh in on this.
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I was under the impression that the adaptive suspension weighs less because of the metal used. And how did you get access to CS parts? I'd like to put them on my car. The only part that is available is the rear diffuser. The front lip is not the same as the M performance and the wing isn't either. Can anyone confirm that the adaptive suspension is heavier? Artemis can you weigh in on this.
Unfortunately I doubt that the official CS rear spoiler will be available anytime soon. You can buy a 3rd party replica from AutoID.
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Common misunderstanding on carbon parts - they save weight on anything.

Not when they replace plastic parts.

As to weight, my bet is on 40lbs saving spec for spec (w/o CCB). The Europe magazine who tested them at Hockenheim GP circuit already weighed both.
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Let's not forget that the 763M wheels weigh approximately 17 lbs less than the 788M wheels from the M2C. That is an easy way to save some weight.
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      11-30-2019, 06:10 AM   #483
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How is this car not lighter? Can someone explain. With roof, hood, seats, and adaptive suspension. The only way u actually lose weight is with CCB? The carbon lip is the only added piece when talking about weight. I'm confused on how it can still be equal weight with the components I mentioned being lighter.
The adaptive suspension will definitely weigh more than the static suspension. Probably offset by the hood and roof. When I pulled off the stock diffuser for the M perf diffuser it weighted the same. The carbon fiber lip adds weight and the rear spoiler actually weighed more than stock lip when i swapped mine out.
I was under the impression that the adaptive suspension weighs less because of the metal used. And how did you get access to CS parts? I'd like to put them on my car. The only part that is available is the rear diffuser. The front lip is not the same as the M performance and the wing isn't either. Can anyone confirm that the adaptive suspension is heavier? Artemis can you weigh in on this.
Spoiler is from auto id, but plenty of replicas out there. The static suspension is also aluminum so no weight savings there.
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