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I ordered an M2C, it came with a missing cam follower in the HPFP assembly. 3 "drivetrain malfunction" visits until dealer figured it out. I've bought 3 other GM cars new, no issues I've bought 3 other BMW's new. X3 ok, X5 OK, E92N54 bad HPFP at 14K miles GM Build quality > BMW based on my sample size.. i love my M2c btw.. it's a blast to drive, looks great, roomy for me (and a passenger, it's a 2 seater for me). quick, responsive, handles and stops great. it will get shit on by the vette but I still love it.
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"It would create quite a bit of understeer, and I'd be pushing enough that I couldn't go to power. So I realized the best strategy was to stay off the power longer and let it get turned more for a really late apex, so I could straighten up and just shoot down that next straightaway because it gains speed with amazing rapidity." "I was not real happy with the brakes. I didn't get that initial bite, you know, not like the Corvette. You know good old GM?" (referring to the C7 here) Who here wouldn't want the 2017 488 GTB with abysmal reviews like that?? IMO once you reach a certain performance threshold, splitting hairs doesn't matter to the buyer as much as the design language and IMO that's where the C8 wins. I'm sure GM will tune everything as they race it and the platform evolves, but in the meantime... the looks (in no small part due to the engine configuration) are enough to sell it alone. The only thing that can kill the demand for it is if they somehow have reliability issues (like the Alfa's, who just can't get away from the stigma).
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I would imagine GM will dial in less understeer for the higher performance versions. I can understand why they made the base car somewhat safe handling as they know their demographic well and are protecting owners from killing themselves. That straight line acceleration is very impressive even if at $90k the car isn't exactly the bargain the artificial $60k launch price made it out to be.
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Farrah One Take Video
starts off giddy, on reflection, good first effort but still not great world beater. still a corvette (good and bad connotation)
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missing cam follower in the HPFP for bank 2. from the factory. BMW/German Kawilty
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I love the M2, but I would probably take the new Vette over it. That said, with a 3 year old and a 10 year old, I'm stuck needing at least somewhat of a backseat for a while. The M2 has just enough!
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Bmw in general is sporty. M2 and it's M friends are taking a DAILY Driver focused car and making it trackable. A Corvette is purpose built for tracking. The stingray is taking a corvette and making it daily driver friendly. But in reality the M2 and Corvette are far too different to be considered competitors. Corvette competes with 911 or Evora. BMW doesn't offer a purpose built sports car. i8 sort of and M next is the proposed corvette competitor. |
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You guys see the latest real world dyno numbers yet?
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...-c8-power-dyno
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