[1mm2]

Originally Posted by HawaiiShrimp

N55 engine is what I like. Sounds great, reliable and lighter.

[mr_lab_rat]

First of all - my OG M2 gets noticed and appreciated by other M car owners.

As far as the previous discussion I wouldn't call the M2C a bargain. In Canada the price difference was $10k so about 15%. Sure it's a better track car, the seats look nice but you sacrifice some looks and sound. For me it wasn't worth it so I snagged one of the last OG M2s.

[10"]

as a 1M owner, i appreciate the N55 M2 the most out of the entire M2 range. Don't care for the M2C but i think the N55 M2 captures and continues the spirit of the 1M best. Simple, affordable, enjoyable. Power is not what these cars need all they need is to be driven and driven hard!

I think anyone into the 'true' spirit of M cars will appreciate 'smaller' M cars the most like the E30 M3, E36 M3, Z3M, Z4M, 1M, and M2.

These days you have "enthusiasts" who buy M5s with over 500hp and a tragic torque converted automatic gearbox with AWD and electronic blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah no thanks. If those people can't appreciate a small M coupe----then be GLAD!!!

[HawaiiShrimp]

Originally Posted by 10"

as a 1M owner, i appreciate the N55 M2 the most out of the entire M2 range. Don't care for the M2C but i think the N55 M2 captures and continues the spirit of the 1M best. Simple, affordable, enjoyable. Power is not what these cars need all they need is to be driven and driven hard!

I think anyone into the 'true' spirit of M cars will appreciate 'smaller' M cars the most like the E30 M3, E36 M3, Z3M, Z4M, 1M, and M2.

These days you have "enthusiasts" who buy M5s with over 500hp and a tragic torque converted automatic gearbox with AWD and electronic blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah no thanks. If those people can't appreciate a small M coupe----then be GLAD!!!

My Top Ms are: E30 M3, E46 M3, 1M and M2. The rest of the M cars are nice, but they are either too big, sounded sub-par or just don't like the look of it. I just don't fall for the others..

Must-have items include:
1. 2 doors
2. Hardtop
3. MT
4. Compact
5. Fun to drive
6. RWD
7. Looks good to me
8. Sounds good to me
9. 6 cylinders or more
10. No EV

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

You gonna make me leave?

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[goodboy1451]

Originally Posted by nachob

The 1M walls video truly explains the 1M and also what the M2 are all about.
Driving fun.... period.
Notice it's not a timed event, no Nürburgring Time, no radar gun, not beating another car or all the usual stuff just a dude and riotous car! As good as it gets for us small bmw owners. Thanks for posting Artemis.

Originally Posted by Artemis

Originally Posted by nachob

The M2 is the best M car made for people that are more from the old school M car philosphy where it's about handling, balance and wieldability. It is not for the later generation of M car owners that got an M car for flash, exclusivity and techno-luxury. You see some of that on this thread. I have been on the Bimmerpost forum for about 15 years now and one of the common things you hear on the M3 forums from the owners is "can't afford." So many of them believe that if you bought a 1M or M2 it's because "you can't afford" an M3. They can't handle the truth that many like me, picked a smaller 1M, twice over an M3 despite being able to afford one.
People have different things that turn them on. If you care about exclusivity and want extended Corinthian Leather to feel you have something special, the M2 will not do it for you. Then there are people that care more about the car itself. If you bought the M2 for affirmation from others it will be a tough road. The M2 is a great car, but it has a few things going against it. While being a great car it is just not that different from the M4. When I see one from far away, it takes some squinting to see if M3, M4, M5, M2, M2C, M2Cs, M2... It comes in auto and manual like all the other BMWs, it has iDrive like all other BMWs, it looks close and weighs pretty much what the current M3 weighs. So the delta between all current BMWs is just much narrower than when the 1M came out. It was drastically different than the M3 in 2011. It as only offered in manual, with fixed suspension, no sunroof, first production car with air curtains used by every other car today, it was quicker from a rolling start than the heavier M3 and it came with two turbos. Not tooting 1M horn, just trying to illustrate that it was radical, controversial departure from before. The M2 is more evolution and sizing of all current BMW offerings so while it is in my opinion the best M car today (to my old school boy racer ethos) it is kinda just one of many current overlapping BMW options. Appreciation is not always instantaneous too. I remember in 2011 I was going buy an E90 M3 before the 1M came out and many were blasting the 1M for having a normal motor....it was just a 135i with a tune. While I agonized the choice online I had to listen to the 135 crowd blast the 1M as just an overpriced 135 and from the M3 crowd saying that it's for people that can't afford an M3. For me the M3 was beautiful and V8 was amazing but it was too heavy, bloated, compromised. I wanted something purer and closer to the M cars I grew up loving. I made the difficult choice on my own because I valued the smaller, lighter, more nimble, manual only, slick-top only ethos of the 1M. I remember being at the Welt waiting for my car to be delivered. I watched a young BMW rep deliver several M cars including loaded M3s and expensive M cars for about an hour before my time came. Then I walked down the stairs as he opened the car door for me and he excitedly said in his German accent.... "This is the one I would get!" I looked at him puzzled after he just delivered a million dollars worth of M cars and I said to him chuckling, "is that part of the delivery script?" And he replied a little offended......"no, no, truly....this is the one I would get for me above all the other ones." It sounded sincere and it was comforting after wanting an M3 for many years and switching to 1M basically at the last minute. I get that validation is nice but I get the joy from the car not from validation. You are lucky to have a truly great M car... enjoy it!

Bit of #Metoo post here.

I also chose the 1M over the other "real" M cars. It's the character and stance that makes the 1M so appealing.

[1mm2]

Originally Posted by goodboy1451

Bit of #Metoo post here.

I also chose the 1M over the other "real" M cars. It's the character and stance that makes the 1M so appealing.

I regret selling my 1M and now find myself using the wife's M2 all the time.

Seriously considering another 2018 for myself...

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by 1mm2

I regret selling my 1M and now find myself using the wife's M2 all the time.
Seriously considering another 2018 for myself...

If I already had an M2 and was considering a second, I’d actually take that money to buy a 911. Having two M2s would get old for me. At least this way you get two different rides/experiences and it keeps things fun while you trade occasionally. I do this with my wife’s Boxster. When I do drive it, it’s fun and stays new in my mind.

[1mm2]

Originally Posted by c1pher

If I already had an M2 and was considering a second, I’d actually take that money to buy a 911. Having two M2s would get old for me. At least this way you get two different rides/experiences and it keeps things fun while you trade occasionally. I do this with my wife’s Boxster. When I do drive it, it’s fun and stays new in my mind.

LOL...I went from the 1M to a 991.1 then a 991.2 and realized they weren't for me given how I drive and where.

I do get your point but just love the M2 as a daily.

[RocketTR]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Of course BMW is gonna say its an M car, because they're selling it. The OG M2 was made as an attempt to test a different market and they succeeded in how well they sold hence they immediately upgraded to the M2C in only 2 years. The proof is in the pudding. The M2C was supposed to be the original M2 but BMW didn't want to go all in at first. THEN they made it the way it was supposed to. That's not just logic that's facts.

That's not fact, that's opinion. You do realize that BMW still distinguishes between what they consider an actual M-car and their other models that still have an M badge on them, don't you? I'll agree that the waters have been muddied with that M badge showing up on non-M cars, but clearly the M2 is an actual M-car, right from the beginning with the OG M2.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by RocketTR

That's not fact, that's opinion. You do realize that BMW still distinguishes between what they consider an actual M-car and their other models that still have an M badge on them, don't you? I'll agree that the waters have been muddied with that M badge showing up on non-M cars, but clearly the M2 is an actual M-car, right from the beginning with the OG M2.

Chief relax, I know the OG M2 is an actual M car. Does it really feel like it should be classified as one? I just don't think so. Just an opinion.

[1mm2]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Chief relax, I know the OG M2 is an actual M car. Does it really feel like it should be classified as one? I just don't think so. Just an opinion.

Agreed and I would go a step further and say any turbo doesn't really "feel" like an M car, nor should be classified as one.

Just an opinion of course...

[ZeroFx]

I dont remember the N55 sounding any better or worse than the S55.

I do remember the the lack of top end power in the N55 though as well as the lack of front parking sensors, 2 series seats, manual seat adjustment and lack of customisation of the M features.

Had the M2c not existed then i would have bought an M4.

[1mm2]

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

I dont remember the N55 sounding any better or worse than the S55.

See a doctor.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Chief relax, I know the OG M2 is an actual M car. Does it really feel like it should be classified as one? I just don't think so. Just an opinion.

Do I consider my wife a great person ? Ask me.

Do you consider your significant other a great person ? You got the answer. Let no-one lecture you how you should classify your significant other and your choice of partner; in the end it's you who spend your life with that person.

So does an M2 owner "really feel like the M2 should be classified as an actual M car", as its manufacturer decided ? Is it a driving fun facilitator ? Does it live up to the legitimate expectations ? Fitness for purpose: does it "deliver" ? Or is it all just window-dressing and smart marketing ? Well, go ask an M2 owner and people who have pushed the car through the corners.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Do I consider my wife a great person ? Ask me.

Do you consider your significant other a great person ? You got the answer. Let no-one lecture you how you should classify your significant other and your choice of partner; in the end it's you who spend your life with that person.

So does an M2 owner "really feel like the M2 should be classified as an actual M car", as its manufacturer decided ? Is it a driving fun facilitator ? Does it live up to the legitimate expectations ? Fitness for purpose: does it "deliver" ? Or is it all just window-dressing and smart marketing ? Well, go ask an M2 owner and people who have pushed the car through the corners.

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You pretty much explained what I have been saying since the beginning using an analogy about relationships. I appreciate the support. Glad we're on the same page.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

You pretty much explained what I have been saying since the beginning using an analogy about relationships. I appreciate the support. Glad we're on the same page.

You sure don’t get it. My M2 M Performance is as much of an M car as your M3. Too bad you don’t know that but that is your problem.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by DanG

You sure don’t get it. My M2 M Performance is as much of an M car as your M3. Too bad you don’t know that but that is your problem.

Buddy wtf is your deal? I am agreeing with him. Man these car topics really get to some of you...

Oh and btw, if you really think your M2 is more of an M car than my M3 then that just pretty much shows where your complex is coming from. If it helps you sleep at night then go ahead and tell yourself that. Good luck.

[DanG]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Buddy wtf is your deal? I am agreeing with him. Man these car topics really get to some of you...

Oh and btw, if you really think your M2 is more of an M car than my M3 then that just pretty much shows where your complex is coming from. If it helps you sleep at night then go ahead and tell yourself that. Good luck.

No one said an M2 is more of an M car than an M3. They are both M cars period.

[GoneIn4Secs]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Chief relax, I know the OG M2 is an actual M car. Does it really feel like it should be classified as one? I just don't think so. Just an opinion.

That doesnt even make any sense, cognitive dissonance much?

Plus bmw wasnt planning on using the s55 in m2 since they had emissions restrictions in EU, nobody would want to put a opf filter on their car unless they are forced to.

[RichualsBMW]

I haven't come across that issue...I always get a 👍🏾 up and questions about the car from other M enthusiasts and others who don't own M2s. IG: @M2_BlackEagle

[HawaiiShrimp]

Originally Posted by c1pher

If I already had an M2 and was considering a second, I’d actually take that money to buy a 911. Having two M2s would get old for me. At least this way you get two different rides/experiences and it keeps things fun while you trade occasionally. I do this with my wife’s Boxster. When I do drive it, it’s fun and stays new in my mind.

I, on the other hand, am trying to convince my wife to drive a Macan so I can drive it too.